Posted on 04/14/2012 7:43:15 AM PDT by Mechanicos
We are not yet defeated. Per Alinsky play book, they want us to feel defeated. But, if you look at the facts although it looks difficult, it is not impossible to still prevent Romney from winning the Nomination.
Romney only has 535 committed delegates now. There are not many winner take all States left to win. And the pattern for Romney in proportional states is he wins urban but not rural areas. So, if conservatives come out to vote and in enough numbers while contining to vote the Not-Romney ticket he will be denied the 1444 he needs. The GOPe and Dems want us to feel defeated when we are not yet defeated.
And a push to "Vote Not-Romney & Take It To The Convention" is not subject to Rove's Negative attack machine. It is possible we can still stop him if we spread the word far enough. Continue voting not-Romney and help get not-Romney delegates for the convention.
So spread the word, make it something positive to do. Vote Not Romney in the remaining states and take it to the Convention for a do over.
That’s funny but it might get you zotted, free speech is not permitted here anymore.
Two votes for Newt here from us in DE on 4/24.
Voting for Newt can make this a whole new horse race.
And it is constructive, rather than sitting around here, bashing each other’s brains in about who is more principled.
Action is what is needed.
Even in the face of long odds, it is far better to do the right thing than to do nothing.
Truth is in short supply here.
The last chance for a brokered convention was Santorum.
This is about denying Romney the nomination. Newt almost certainly can’t get enough delegates to win outright. The point is to vote for Newt so that Romney doesn’t win first place, loses delegates, and a floor fight at the convention determines the nominee. What Newt is doing with his donor list is utterly meaningless to this goal and irrelevant to this thread.
For Gingrich to pull out any shot of winning any more delegates, he needs cash. Since he’s already 4.5 million dollars in the hole, he needs to raise around 10 million dollars in the next 30 days to pay down his debt and buy any kind of media. He has no superpac funding and little if any money coming in, so he is renting his donor list, which is the last desperate act of ANY politician in a campaign because it PUTS OFF potential donors who don’t want unsolicited donor requests. Renting your donor list is primarily used to pay off existing campaign debt.
But sure, it has NOTHING to do with the campaign. You’re political acumen is top-notch, sport. Don’/t quit your day job.
Way to go, Jim!
I say I voted for him in my primary. I say it’s not over until after the convention. I say I can’t stand Mittens. I say I will vote in November for whoever is on the ballet with an R beside their name, UNLESS polls show there is no chance of that person winning. Then I might write in a protest vote.
This is a group for like-minded people. If 1,000 libertarians or 1,000 Obama fans showed up and started posting, would you insist that they're being denied their "free speech" if they're banned? This isn't a free-for-all, it's a private organization. If you're going to come here and talk down conservative candidates while you promote liberal ones, I wouldn't expect the locals to take kindly to that.
It’s irrelevant because we’re not here to PREDICT who wins the primary. Go watch some urban elite talking head pundit panel on TV for that. We’re here to PARTICIPATE in the primary. We’re not talking about what’s LIKELY, we’re talking about what CAN be done. The fact remains the primary is barely halfway over, and Mitt Moneybags has barely half the delegates he needs to clinch the nomination. The fact remains that if the Massachusetts Mormon loses most of the next 20 states, he DOESN’T GET the nomination. No one cares what’s likely. Did the patriots at Valley Forge sit around talking about what was the “likely” outcome? The fact is as long as it’s POSSIBLE to deny Romney the nomination, every conservative should be working to make that happen. And it most definitely is. If we get enough to people to vote against Romney, he will lose.
To this day I don't understand why we had such a lack luster crop of candidates when there are real stars in the party and conservative movement (Palin, Pence, Ryan, West, Rubio, etc.). Can someone explain why the real conservatives in the party chose to sit out and hand the nomination to Romney? I thought after 2008 we were done giving it to the next person in line. We had a fantastic opportunity to put up a solid conservative, a real contrast to Obama and in the end we serve up Romney. Why?!?
Hannity has made it very clear the primaries are not over and not claimed Romney had wrapped it up when I've seen him. I'm sure he's a closet Newt supporter based on how he's conducted himself.
I'm the type of person who thinks for myself and doesn't need to look to "elders" to endorse my opinion. I don't need ANYONE else to tell me Newt would be a far better president than Romney. And if you want to look at who "earned" it and whose "turn" it is, that should be Newt based on everything he's done for conservatives and Republicans.
People like Rubio and Ryan obviously want to try and extract favors from Romney by endorsing him. And they're betting he is the nominee. I'm not denying Rommey is the LIKELY nominee.
I don't care if Romney beats Obama or not so I'm not interested in his electoral strategy. Whether it's donkey crap or elephant crap being dumped on you, it's still crap.
That is an absurd and unsupportable comparison. Newt has a trophy case full of conservative achievements that Mitt Romney couldn’t even dream about.
Newt took back the House as the public face of the Republican party in 1994 after 40 years out of power. That came with enough momentum to keep them in power for 12 years.
Newt fought behind the scenes throughout the ‘80s to keep the Republican party platform conservative, anti-tax and anti-communist.
Newt stood up to Bush Sr.’s pledge to raise taxes, publically denouncing his plan and drawing the ire of the party elites. The desire to punish him for this courageous act of speaking conservative truth to power remains one of the top reasons the party has tried to sabotage his presidential campaign.
Newt forced Clinton to pass balanced budgets and welfare reform.
Newt's stewardship over the government’s purse strings coincided with a national economic boom.
Newt came one vote away from passing a balanced budget amendment that would have prevented the entire fiscal crisis we’re in now.
Newt sent the partial-birth abortion bans to Clinton which were vetoed, but laid the groundwork for them to be passed under Bush.
Newt along with Reagan are the two great conservative leaders of the last 30 years. They didn’t just talk on TV or the radio, they got concrete results and made things happen, facing up to all of the spiteful and hateful scrutiny that comes from the opposition when you take bold stands like that.
While they were doing that, Romney was denouncing Ronald Reagan’s record, refusing to sign onto Newt’s Contract with America, and losing elections badly. Newt is a man who stood for the same conservative principles for decades and has the record to back it up. Romney is a man who spoke as a liberal and governed as a liberal, and only now SAYS he's changed his mind on everything with nothing to back it up.
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Apparently you're not familiar with the 1st Amendment. It says "Congress shall make no law..." not "website owners shall make no rules." LOL
I am not pumping Mitt. I am telling you that Newt is a phony. I would not trust him farther than I could spit.
Apparently, many voters feel as I do or Newt would be ahead, but...he isn’t.
All you have to do is go back to a year ago around here. That is the real Newt. I will not pretend because he talks saying what folks want to hear in order to get elected, that he would stick to that.
Anyhoo, I will vote for the non Romney in Indiana, that is the best you will get from me. I will not vote for Newt. Sorry.
My vote is my vote. I won’t tell you who to vote for. Don’t try to tell me who to vote for. I thought our vote was still private.
You’re either delusional or a complete fool. Does a man’s record as an elected official not mean anything to you?
You compared Newt to Mitt. That highly insulting, wrongheaded and unsupportable comparison is what I was responding to.
But at what point is supporting anybody but Romney (aka Newt) counter productive?
I don't care if Romney beats Obama or not. I can't decide if a gridlocked Obama is more or less dangerous than a Romney who will have most of the GOP rubber-stamping everything he wants to do, since what he did in Massachusetts was horrendously liberal. I won't be voting for either of them. I also don't believe he can win, when the hardcore base who works on campaigns doesn't like him and never will. There's no way they can muster enthusiasm to work for him so his ground game is going to be very weak. They'll probably be bussing in Mormons from Utah to the other 49 states to work for him and they'll turn off voters even more when they can't resist trying to recruit them to LDS.
Especially when Newt himself has basically admitted Romney will be the nominee. Those of us who are ABO are not pro Romney...At this point it's a matter of accepting reality. And for me the reality is ABO.
The reality I'm accepting is that 20 states with over 1,000 delegates, 45% of the total, including my state, have not voted yet. Do you want to disenfranchise those voters? Romney needs 1,144 delegates and only has 656.
A floor fight at the convention that picked a nominee other than Mitt would almost guarantee Obama's defeat. The media attention and the excitement level among the base would be unprecedented. If you want to defeat Obama that is the best way to do it.
Newt has absolutely not "admitted" Romney will be the nominee. He is still campaigning and you can see where he stands in this interview from the 9th with Hannity:
http://electad.com/videos/newt-gingrich-talks-to-sean-hannity-april-9-2012/
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