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George Zimmerman: Self-defense hearing could dismiss death charge
Orlando Slantinel ^ | 4/11/2012 | Henry Pierson Curtis

Posted on 04/12/2012 5:17:42 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001

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To: traditional1
Sounds like they are trying to recreate the same set of circumstances as the Rodney King case in 1991-82.

In the R King case the prosecution filed charges the evidence didn't support. It was nothing more than a show trial, they never intended to convict the cops.

The trial was moved to Simi Valley so the not guilty verdict could be blamed on Republican Racism.

The not guilty verdict gave the left the excuse they needed for the orchestrated race riots that followed the not guilty verdict of the cops.

They are doing the same thing here.

Creating an excuse for race riots.

41 posted on 04/12/2012 6:06:52 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Mustangman

I agree with almost all of your post.

Exception. “One indisputable fact is that a person is dead as a result of contact instigated by Zimmerman.”

To the extent we know what happened, Zimmerman followed him at a distance. He may have wanted to initiate contact but apparently failed to get close enough.

Martin apparently chose to approach and speak to Zimmerman, which means he is the one who initiated contact. Many claim that Martin attacked Zimmerman without direct provocation. I don’t think there is sufficient evidence to make this assumption at this point.

But it does seem to be clear that Martin chose to approach Zimmerman and confront him at least verbally, from his girlfriend’s testimony.


42 posted on 04/12/2012 6:07:15 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: spacejunkie2001
With that headline, "The Orlando Slantinel" is very good, but still too kind.

This is all about political manipulation to sacrifice Zimmerman in a political show trial that puts the Communists to shame.

Zimmerman's only hope is that the government gets their hand picked judge, and he turns on them, and/or several very cunning nullification jurors.

There will be several trials.

43 posted on 04/12/2012 6:07:42 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: Ratman83
One indisputable fact is that a person is dead as a result of contact instigated by one of them, which one we do not know.

We know from the 911 call that Martin ran away from Zimmerman and Zimmerman ran after him.
44 posted on 04/12/2012 6:09:50 AM PDT by FewsOrange
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To: Mustangman
George...you now know why the 911 operator suggested that you not follow Trayvon....but, you found out too late....much too late.

Mustangman: you just demonstrated that you know nothing whatever about this case. None of what you just said is true, including '911'.

Also: try to stop using ellipses mid-sentence. It makes you sound like an emo serial-killer.

45 posted on 04/12/2012 6:13:33 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Vaquero

Is that Doofer Dumbutt?


46 posted on 04/12/2012 6:15:04 AM PDT by jurroppi1
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To: IMR 4350
Creating an excuse for race riots.

Which for most is just an excuse to steal.

47 posted on 04/12/2012 6:15:39 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: traditional1
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48 posted on 04/12/2012 6:18:23 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: Sherman Logan

The judge will never dismiss the charges in Fl. for fear of his own hide. The case will go to a jury, probably not of his(Zimmerman’s) peers, but with enough “minorities” on it to insure a conviction.


49 posted on 04/12/2012 6:18:57 AM PDT by kenmcg (How)
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To: cricket
We need to get through election and have Repubs in charge of Justice Department

You don't seriously believe Romney can beat Obama, do you?

50 posted on 04/12/2012 6:20:50 AM PDT by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: cricket
If Holder 'Justice' leads; every day will be 'open season'. .. We can count on it.

We can. But 'they' can count on this rabbit...and many others...shooting back.

51 posted on 04/12/2012 6:22:36 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I will not comply. I will NEVER submit.)
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To: FewsOrange

So we still do not know as fact which person initiated contact. Following someone is not against the law.


52 posted on 04/12/2012 6:24:51 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: spacejunkie2001

its not what the law says that matters. Now it’s all about the appeasement of the liberal lynch mob.

Face it Angela Corey is a Republican, appointed by Florida’s republican governor and she charged zimmerman with 2nd degree murder.

if Zimmerman tries this and its a lib judge they’ll deny it. and if its a RINO judge they’ll do the same.


53 posted on 04/12/2012 6:26:55 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (whites are 8 times more likely to be victimized by black criminals than blacks by white criminals)
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To: MichaelP
I agree about the judge, but if it goes to trial they will have a hard time "hand-picking" a jury. The defence always has the advantage during jury selection. It will be interesting to see how long and difficult the jury selection process is. A venue change is also very likely. The defense has the advantage there, too.

Of course even if Zimmerman walks the DoJ will be waiting in the wings with federal civil rights charges. They are not going to let him get away.

54 posted on 04/12/2012 6:31:20 AM PDT by jboot
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To: MichaelP
...two white cops, plain clothes detectives, were arrested for the murder of Rodney King.

On March 3, 2011, King was stopped by Los Angeles police for driving erratically.
He was issued a citation for driving with an expired license.

On July 12, 2011, King was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence.

Ol' Rodney must be a zombie.

55 posted on 04/12/2012 6:31:20 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I will not comply. I will NEVER submit.)
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To: Navy Patriot
several very cunning nullification jurors.

What the jury nullification proponents never seem to realize is that it is a two-edged sword.

The OJ jurors practiced it, as did the jury in To Kill a Mockingbird. If the evidence is as is presently out there, the Zimmerman jury might have to do so in order to convict.

Conviction of an obviously innocent man because you dislike his politics or skin color is just as much jury nullification as is acquittal of a guilty one because you approve of his politics.

56 posted on 04/12/2012 6:31:29 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: MrB
“Which for most is just an excuse to steal.”

That's exactly why it only takes a few people to start a full scale riot.

A few start the riot and others jump in for the fun.

News media then creates the spin as to the cause of the riot.

Most people don't remember, but one of the guys that hit Reginal Denny in the head with the brick said he didn't know anything about the not guilty verdict when he started rioting, and that was pretty much ground zero for the riot.

The LA riots were planned in advance, the not guilty verdict was just an excuse.

57 posted on 04/12/2012 6:34:18 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: IMR 4350

I’ve heard it said -

crowds are kinda fun, until the first window gets broken and the authorities do nothing about it.


58 posted on 04/12/2012 6:41:02 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: traditional1

NBC convicted him.
He was found guilty before a trial.


59 posted on 04/12/2012 6:47:47 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Beware the Sweater Vest)
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To: Mustangman

“George...you now know why the 911 operator suggested that you not follow Trayvon....but, you found out too late....much too late.”


Are you saying that, after the 911 operator told Zimmerman, “we don’t need you to do that”, and Zimmerman said, “OK”, that Zimmerman continued to follow Trayvon? My understanding is that Zimmerman maintains that he at that point returned to his vehicle.


60 posted on 04/12/2012 6:49:53 AM PDT by mtrott
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