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Windfall of cash could hit state treasury from global warming program
San Jose Mercury News ^ | 4/8/12 | Paul Rogers

Posted on 04/08/2012 7:48:38 AM PDT by SmithL

For the past 10 years, California has struggled with huge budget deficits and wrenching cuts. Suddenly, however, the state is poised to raise billions from an unusual new source: the proceeds from its landmark global warming law.

The windfall could come as soon as this fall, when state officials are set to begin auctioning off pollution credits to oil refineries, power plants and other major polluters as part of a new "cap-and-trade" system.

The amounts are potentially enormous: from $1 billion to $3 billion a year in 2012 and 2013, jumping to as high as $14 billion a year by 2015, according to the nonpartisan state Legislative Analyst's Office. By comparison, the state's current budget deficit is $9 billion.

But like thirsty castaways on an island surrounded by ocean water they can't drink, Gov. Jerry Brown and state legislators face strict constraints on how they can spend the money. More than 30 years of court rulings and ballot measures -- dating to Proposition 13 in 1978 -- limit its use, probably only to projects that reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

To add another hurdle, major business groups are preparing lawsuits, arguing that the state cannot collect the money at all.

Still, Brown and others in the Capitol are cautiously making plans. On Monday, the state's High-Speed Rail Authority slipped into a news release that the money would be used as "a backstop" that could save the struggling bullet-train project. And in a follow-up interview with this newspaper, Dan Richard, chairman of the rail authority, asserted that a large portion of the money could go to fund high-speed rail.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: ab32; capandtrade; extortion; globalwarminghoax; goldenstate
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To: Ingtar

Oh - that’s right. They’re calling it fees, so in Romney’s world it is not really a tax increase.


21 posted on 04/08/2012 8:15:43 AM PDT by Ingtar
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To: Texas Eagle
The windfall could come as soon as this fall, when state officials are set to begin auctioning off pollution credits to oil refineries, power plants and other major polluters as part of a new "cap-and-trade" system.

Wouldn't they just love to know they'll owe no royalties to Fannie Mae? A certain FReeper (me) filed a provisional patent application describing "natural process assets that transform the state of mobile commons such as air and water" more than eighteen months before Bartels' application date.

22 posted on 04/08/2012 8:16:58 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: Ingtar
$1-3 billion in new “taxes” on the consumers still paying their own power bills. These additional costs will be passed on to the consumers. They might as well just call it what it is - another an illegal tax increase.

There, fixed it.

23 posted on 04/08/2012 8:18:44 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: SmithL

These leeches also told us the lottery would save education and balance the budget, and tobacco taxes would save health care and balance the budget.

Nothing has changed and they continue to spend 20-30% more then they take in in revenue.

I don’t blame the politicians as much as the morons in this state who keep electing them.


24 posted on 04/08/2012 8:25:33 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: depressed in 06

Exactly. As if all this $$ just appears from nowhere, like manna from Heaven. The consumer will pay the bill. Employers will pay the bill, which means fewer jobs and less tax revenue (when they decide to leave). Idiots all.


25 posted on 04/08/2012 8:25:49 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: Ingtar

**$1-3 billion in new “taxes” on the consumers still paying their own power bills. These additional costs will be passed on to the consumers. They might as well just call it what it is - another tax increase.***

Liberals don’t get it. Corporations and big business don’t pay taxes, it is the consumer that pays all of it. All costs are passed on in the final price.

And these new taxes will go where all the other taxes have gone, down a RAT hole.


26 posted on 04/08/2012 8:26:53 AM PDT by wrench
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To: SmithL

Thanks for posting the article.

“The windfall could come as soon as this fall, when state officials are set to begin auctioning off pollution credits to oil refineries, power plants and other major polluters as part of a new “cap-and-trade” system. “

And WHERE do the oil refineries, power plants and other major polluters get the money to pay for those ‘pollution credits’?


27 posted on 04/08/2012 8:31:45 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: meatloaf
It is but Kalifornia wants to be first state to jump off the cliff.

I hear they have a lot of cliffs.

28 posted on 04/08/2012 8:33:46 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Carry_Okie
Wow. I clicked on the link.

You'll have to dumb this down for me just a bit.

Actually, a lot.

29 posted on 04/08/2012 8:33:46 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: BigBobber
These leeches also told us the lottery would save education and balance the budget, and tobacco taxes would save health care and balance the budget.

Those same leeches told us that if we hid underneath a WOOD DESK it would protect us from a nuclear fireball.

30 posted on 04/08/2012 8:43:09 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: SmithL

Windfall of cash?

Sounds more like a Ponzi scheme.


31 posted on 04/08/2012 8:44:05 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: jveritas
Global warming is the biggest hoax in history of mankind...

Well, with the exception of Obama qualifying for President.

32 posted on 04/08/2012 8:46:05 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Richard from IL

My wife and I have good paying jobs in Silcon Valley, but we can’t wait to get out of this insane state. Not only will companies flee, people will too when their energy bills soar.


33 posted on 04/08/2012 8:46:54 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: SmithL
My bet...the companies will fold up their businesses and move to more favorable business climates.

Ah, them Kalifornians are too smart by half.

34 posted on 04/08/2012 8:48:42 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: Michael.SF.
train to nowhere

GOOGLE SAYS:

About 3,160,000 results (0.46 seconds)

and in related news:

High Speed Rail Authority approves what critics call 'train to nowhere'

35 posted on 04/08/2012 8:51:07 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: SmithL
Have they thought of charging individuals for the CO2 they exhale?

That would bring in trillions.

Couldn't charge Eric Holder's people, though. That would be racist.

36 posted on 04/08/2012 8:59:08 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Over half of U.S. murders are of black people, and 90% of them are committed by other black people.)
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To: YankeeReb

I like the quote in the Mecury News, that states:’the funds will somehow be restrained to enviromental projects’ great lies if anyone accually believe the frauds in Sacremento; to think Arnold pass this offensive legislation(we should have known that if you marry a Kennedy you will always be liberal no matter what party affiliation). That prick not only fathered a bastard kid, got his murdering son’s pal sentence slashed in half, but put into motion, years of lawsuits, and counter lawsuits, in a time we cannot even afford to give free cell service to legislators. Progressives are anything but! That piece of garbage should be shipped back to Austria before he does any further damage——God, Califorians are so effing stupid, they voted for Brown again, what do you expect.


37 posted on 04/08/2012 8:59:12 AM PDT by Joshua Marcus
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To: BigBobber
I don’t blame the politicians as much as the morons in this state who keep electing them.

Bingo. California is getting exactly what it deserves. I just hope the rest of the country doesn't get stuck bailing it out.

38 posted on 04/08/2012 9:02:17 AM PDT by Reddon
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To: Texas Eagle

Cap and trade. You can still pollute but will have to pay for the ability.


39 posted on 04/08/2012 9:02:50 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Solyent Pink is Sheeple!!!!)
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To: Richard from IL
They’ll get less than the projections as more companies flee California.

Yes, but they'll spend twice what they project.

40 posted on 04/08/2012 9:04:49 AM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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