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Do you guys shoot “buck a bullet” high-tech frangible hollowpoints at the range for requal?

If so, can you explain to me why, instead of shooting 20 cents a pop FMJ range blammo?

I’m not buying it, sorry. This is not a contract for blammo, this is for serious expensive bad-ass defensive ammo.

The kind you don’t pop off 200 at a time at the range.

Unless you are telling me that Uncle Sam just always pisses away our money like that.

We use frangable ball in the shoot house because it’s so called “lead free” and “green” versus evil lead or copper washed lead. Also use frangable ball on steel plates up close indoors or outdoors.

Not frangable hollow points..... hell never have seen a frangable hollow point in the local inventory .

Carry here is 147gr OSM 9mm or 125gr GDHP speer 357SIG.

If you don't buy it, you don't buy it. I don't know what else to say. I guess I could upload video of us actually loading Federal, .40 cal 180 grain hollow points and Speer, Gold Dot/LE .223 into weapons and shooting the ammo at quals. I don't want to give the impression that DHS isn't a problem. It's a huge problem, but not in the way many here think it is. The idea that DHS is gearing up for some kind of mass assualt on the populace would require some kind of martial prowess and spirit which is being throttled to death by the commies in DC.

Today I finished a required training course entitled Diversity and Inclusiveness. I don't see how ordering everybody in DHS to be a pansy jives with military style ops against the populace.

“The kind you don’t pop off 200 at a time at the range. Unless you are telling me that Uncle Sam just always pisses away our money like that.”

Um...I do and I know they do, too. I only load Speer Gold Dot versus FMJ for various calibers. Even when handloading the ammo is about 40 cents a around versus $1.35-$1.50 on average. The bullets may come a little cheaper in FMJ but not by much. I get Speer Gold Dots at about $11-$14/100, but even a decent FMJ is $9-$12/100. It is difficult to save much more than that. About 10 years ago Gold Dots were $8/100 and FMJ were $5/100, but that has since changed. Everyone in the supply chain is trying to squeeze profits out of every step and component.

I’ll load around 30,000 rounds this year and shoot about half of it. Sometime next Spring, I’ll load more. Throughout the year I look for deals on components but the pickings are slim. I practically bought out the Internet of Speer 44 cal 270gr DeepCurl and I only got 800 bullets. It simply disappears that fast. People are buying everything that can and manufacturers are making more than ever. I have friends in various companies and they have installed loads of new equipment and run the machines days and night. Between all the foreign wars, the FLEO/LEO communities, and private purchases, there simply isn’t enough to go around right now and that is keeping prices of everything high.

What concerns me even more than the ammo is the govts control over the media, the ability to shut down the internet and without a Radio Free America, if the SHTF how will patriots communicate without the domestic enemies hearing and reading all communications?

Smoke signals? windtalkers? They can decrypt most anything... How can an effective defense be mounted without communication? Are we going back to carrier pigeons?
What is the govts purchase order for bird shot?

Civil War II? Instead of Blue vs Gray, Blue vs Red States?

What revolution has suceeded without outside help?
Who can patriots count on ? France? Russia? Germany? Mexico?