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Is the GOP Caving in on Same-Sex Marriage?
The New American ^ | 02 April 2012 | Dave Bohon

Posted on 04/03/2012 7:28:59 AM PDT by xzins

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To: xzins

What is the GOP known far and wide for doing? Anyone who answers caving and kissing obama’s and Democrat ass is on the right trail.


21 posted on 04/03/2012 10:41:06 AM PDT by sport
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To: darrellmaurina; All

A very thoughtful post. I think something also to consider is that the population at large is more tolerant homosexuals. But the population at large is growing less tolerant of abortion. Look at surveys of young people on that subject and one will see a solid pro-life majority. Look at the bills in the various state legislature further restricting abortion. See the somewhat frightened quotes from Naral et. al. on the subject.

I think our elected representatives largely (!) cater to what the public wants. Right now, 30 years of propaganda is taking its toll and people don’t care about homosex. IMO, it will take another 30 years to reap those fruits and then the tide will turn.


22 posted on 04/03/2012 10:58:48 AM PDT by jjm2111
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To: xzins

They practically killed the military with the repeal of DADT, and we let that go without a whimper. It could not have happened without the support of significant support from the GOPe.


23 posted on 04/03/2012 12:19:44 PM PDT by itsahoot (Tag lines are a waste of bandwidth, as are most of my comments.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Politico does not get to define Republicanism.

Neither do Conservatives with convictions. Only the unprincipled ambitious really get heard.

24 posted on 04/03/2012 12:24:00 PM PDT by itsahoot (Tag lines are a waste of bandwidth, as are most of my comments.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Both parties have been infiltrated, and Romney, whether he knows it or not, is the designated loser to zer0. Both sides want zer0 presiding over the complete destruction of our country.

They're willing to lie, cheat, steal, and kill to win by any means necessary. That means that they have an advantage over those of us who are truthful and do not cheat, steal, or kill.
25 posted on 04/03/2012 12:34:03 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Responsibility2nd; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; BlackElk; Clintonfatigued; calcowgirl; SierraWasp
>> Want proof? Look at the campaign for president. All the SoCons are gone. Palin, Bachmann, Cain, Perry, Newt and now Santorum.... Gone. Instead we are told to shut up on these issues and focus on the economy <<

Santorum's not gone yet, though quite a few freepers are happy to join the GOP establishment in sneering derisively against "SoCons!" and whining "This is NOT the election year for that!!" (it never is, of course) and telling us the election is exclusively about FISCAL issues how we're doooooooooomed if we run a social conservative. Of course, these same "conservatives" were on the bandwagon for guys like Ahnuld Schwartzekennedy and Joe LIEberman, gloating about how wonderful it would be if we elected them. Hmmm.

26 posted on 04/03/2012 2:03:46 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: jjm2111
the population at large is more tolerant homosexuals.

Twenty five or so years of intense indoctrination in the government schools is all it took.

Soon your children will come home and tell you your car is too big, and you eat too much meat, then they will begin to remind you that old people have an obligation to die so as not to rob the young of their rightful inheritance.

27 posted on 04/03/2012 3:27:31 PM PDT by itsahoot (Tag lines are a waste of bandwidth, as are most of my comments.)
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To: TheOldLady
They're willing to lie, cheat, steal, and kill to win by any means necessary. That means that they have an advantage over those of us who are truthful and do not cheat, steal, or kill.

In your heart you know that is right :)

28 posted on 04/03/2012 3:29:51 PM PDT by itsahoot (Tag lines are a waste of bandwidth, as are most of my comments.)
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To: traditional1

Even Rush has recently said that he now realized that the Republican Party had NO ideology. The leaders of the GOP are hollow men, they talk the talk but do not walk the walk. However, now that people are catching on to the fact that not all that glitters is gold in the world of politics, hopefully there will be a spring cleaning in the Republican Party.


29 posted on 04/03/2012 7:09:48 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: vmivol00

Americans in general are caving. Within a generation, there will be no meaningful resistance to the gay agenda. The schools went after the kids and the fight is all but lost. Tradional values will soon be seen as a relic of a bygone era, as social problems create a hell on earth. I feel really bad for my little boy dealing with the degenerate society that will be all around him.


30 posted on 04/03/2012 7:45:16 PM PDT by SoDak
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To: itsahoot

What did Mitch McConnel and John Boener do to stop it?

It is like whoever choses the Republican leadership picked the two most useless marshmallows.


31 posted on 04/03/2012 7:57:50 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: greene66

It is definately time for something new but it has to grow up from the grass roots. Maybe people could run for office on the local level with no party affiliation or perhaps regional parties, then during the national elections the regional parties would have to be wooed by the presidential candidates.


32 posted on 04/03/2012 8:07:05 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: jjm2111
Thank you for your note, JJm2111.

We have a real problem with pro-homosexual indoctrination in our schools and our entertainment media. We're seeing the results, and seeing them the hard way.

You're probably right on increasing opposition to abortion on demand at all stages of pregnancy. Better lifesaving technology for extreme premature infants, along with the widespread use of ultrasound photography, is willing the battle to convince people that “it's not a choice, it's a child.”

Of course, without changes in the law, all that change in public attitude does is lead people to say abortion should be “safe, legal and rare” — i.e., discouraging people from choosing abortion rather than banning abortion outright. But at least it saves some babies.

33 posted on 04/03/2012 8:44:12 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: EternalVigilance

Love your tagline! There are so many FReepers who are ready to hold their nose and vote for yet another Liberal Republican. Your tagline needs to be a headline instead. We desperately need to have this discussion. Organizing a massive write- in if Romney is the nominee would be great. Any ideas?


34 posted on 04/04/2012 5:09:42 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: EternalVigilance

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Tagline too!


35 posted on 04/04/2012 5:47:37 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: xzins; Alamo-Girl; P-Marlowe
...While the GOP certainly cannot match the Democrats in their fawning attitudes toward the “gay” lobby, there has nonetheless “been an evolution in the political approach — and an acknowledgment of a cultural shift in the country"....

The "cultural shift in the country" has been the active project of the Progressive Left for a century by now, and is currently being magisterially manipulated, aided, and abetted by so-called President Obama and his coterie of supporters, who are seeded into all major institutions of American public life, public and private.

IMHO, this "president" is a black magician perpetrating satanic evil to subvert the very foundations of our free republic. And yet I hear that Romney is somehow the greater danger to the nation — so much so that "true conservatives [ought] to pray fervently against his election in November."

Which is tantamount to praying for Obama's re-election; and I don't think the nation as we know it can survive four more years of his "rule."

Just sayin'.... FWIW.

36 posted on 04/04/2012 10:47:16 AM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: Cicero
Anyone who thinks I am going to vote for Romney OR Obama is sadly mistaken. And I think the same will be true of millions of other voters who still know the difference between right and wrong. No on Obama, no on romney, period.

Amen to that! Anybody thinks I'm going to support a guy who pushed gay marriage or abortion is smoking something illegal. If I wanted to vote for that kind of person, I'd skip my primaries and just vote all (D) in the general election.
37 posted on 04/04/2012 5:17:31 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: betty boop

Indeed. Thank you so much for sharing your insights, dearest sister in Christ!


38 posted on 04/04/2012 8:48:21 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop

Hi, Sister. As you know, I am not a Romney supporter. And, yes, I do consider him every bit as bad as Obama. He’s Mussolini to Obama’s Stalin, imho.

He is a statist crony corporatist, and that makes him a national socialist in my book.


39 posted on 04/04/2012 9:56:53 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: xzins; Alamo-Girl
As you know, I am not a Romney supporter.

Nor am I. But it looks very likely he will be the nominee all the same.

MY candidate was Rick Perry, on the basis of his successful executive experience and his respect for the Tenth Amendment. Then he was gone. So I tuned into Newt next — and then tuned out when it appeared that the guy may be a tad "unhinged." Then I turned to Santorum. But I don't think he has a prayer of winning the nomination owing to poor organization and a dearth of cash.

It's been a very depressing primary season. I can't wait for it to be over.

At the end of the day, Romney may be the last man standing. At which point, for me, the question then becomes: Which is the lesser of two evils — Obama or Romney?

You say Romney and Obama are indistinguishable in that they are equally evil. There is not a shade of difference between them. I really have no answer for that, except to say I do perceive differences between them.

But I did come across an interesting quote today, in National Review, from Brad Todd, "a Tennessean Republican strategist":

This election is about putting out the fire, not whether we have a perfect fireman or not.

[From: "Romney's Hidden Strength," by Jim Geraghty, NR, April 2, 2012]

To you it may look as if I am caving to the "spirit of the age" in saying I agree with Todd's insight. And that's one way to look at it.

But the way I look at it is, we really do need to "put out the fire" before the nation self-immolates. And that means that Obama and his coterie must go. To me, this is Job One.

It seems "the spirit of the age" — the anti-Christ — is precisely what informs this administration's plans and policies.

Thus Obama must go. Once again, I am disappointed that "my" candidate did not prevail in the nomination contest. I had to hold my nose to vote for McCain. I guess I'll be holding my nose this time out, too....

For me, the bottom-line is: Anybody but Obama. And I am not going to "sit this one out."

JMHO FWIW.

Thanks for writing, dear brother in Christ!

40 posted on 04/05/2012 10:40:42 AM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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