Posted on 04/01/2012 5:11:12 AM PDT by IbJensen
Big Sis Janet Napolitano and the Obama private army working under ICE, has placed an HUGE order for 450,000,000 (YES..MILLION) rounds of 40 calliber ultra high performance optimum penetration for terminal performance rounds from Defense contractors ATK.
They also have an open order for 175 million rounds of .223 caliber rifle rounds.
I have to ask each and every one of you reading this today a series of very important questions and would love some answers.
1/ Why does the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency need to be so heavily armed and need so many detention facilities? Go to their web site and check out the massive number in each state, far many more than are needed for illegal immigrants. http://www.ice.gov/detention-facilities/ . Have a look at how many employees this agency has grown to, the different divisions and the always growing number of “special agents” all heavily armed with armored tanks, vehicles and heavy duty military style equipment. All this to catch some illegals? I do not think so, as they have done a very bad job of that so far.
2/ Is this the private army that President Barack Hussein Obama said and promised that he would form when running for president, which would be as well equipped and trained as the regular army? If so, he has it now and it was all done on our watch! Shame on us.
3/ If it is, why now and what for? Surely they are not expecting millions and millions of illegals to come swarming over our borders?
4/ Is there something about to break in this election year that may stop the election or ensure an Obama victory and the final curtain for the Republic as we know it comes down?
I find that it is very alarming that this is happening now at the same time that from President Barack Hussein Obama down, using the public and private media and well known extreme left wing figures like Sharpton, Spike Lee, Jessie Jackson, several politicians, the New Black Panthers etc, a race war is being promoted every day using the African American population as pawns, feeding them vile and more than often incorrect information, angering them and in return angering and frustrating a well armed and trained group of whites who see a huge injustice about to occur.
America, wake up to the distinct probability that the America we love is on the edge of collapse, and that violence and economic destruction will be a huge part of that collapse.
To many, it seems impossible that this would happen here, on the streets of the towns and ciities that you live in. That people you work with, live next to, like and maybe are related to, could become an enemy combatant with as strong a desire to destroy and remake America as we have of saving the America given to us by our Founding Fathers.
This is a short article compared to many I have written, but the message is as important and strong as anything I have written or spoken of before. Please be aware of what is happening to our beloved America, be prepared to maybe have to do something you never dreamt you would have to do. When that time comes, God will give you the strength to do what is needed as long as you are ready and have everything you need to do it.
GOD BLESS AMERICA AND YOU ALL.
But you might take this story as an index of what some people think is going on: yesterday, I went to the indoor range for its opening at 9am (largest and best one in the state). When I arrived, there was a line all the way around the building. I wound up waiting more than an hour for a lane, which, as one of the attendants informed me, was nothing because on recent Saturdays, people without reservations have had to wait for three or four hours.”
Actually, that’s encouraging.
This order of ammo is not nefarious. DHS is not planning an all out assault on the public with 450 million rounds, I hate to burst your civil war2 bubble. This order of ammo is going to be used for the certification and training of federal law enforcement, which has been going on since the inception of federal law enforcement.
I can tell you as a member of DHS you have plenty to worry about from the organization I work for, but it aint a simple order of qual ammo.
You go out and buy all the guns and ammo you like with all of your friends and prep for the comming civil war2, in the end you’ll be sitting on a pile of guns and ammo with no freedom.
No one is going to postpone the elections.
Thanks for the ping. This is quite an interesting thread.
It's far more alarming, to me at least, that there are so many serf morons around who now claimed to be "alarmed". The time for "alarm" is long past...Being "alarmed" too late is the clearest indicator that communism's final victory here in the U.S. has already become inevitable.
Where were all these newly "brave" alarmists a couple of decades ago when something effective might have been possible to stop this tyranny?
The tree of liberty has rotted to a mere soggy stump. The amount of feeding to revive it may, or may not, be available.
For the past two decades, our leaders of both parties have been busily making sure that they are prepared.
From your mouth to God’s ears
Comms are lready up for many. Eithe rSW or word of mouth, even signaling in some areas.
If they start doing as you say...which they may...the word will get out and they will not be able to stop it. Once it happens where it is obvious what is going on, others, all over the nation, including groups like the Oathkeeprs, Tea Parties, and the various militia groups which are still active all over the country, will begin talking, coming together, and fighting back.
I pray it does not come to that...but so did our founders.
Letter Re: Prospects for the Eastern U.S. in a Societal Collapse
Great source of hunker down info if you didn't already know about it. Not saying he's always right but he tends to think things out in a logical matter. I found his two year timeline in the above post interesting...
Yeah I will read that site tonight!
Under the Geneva Convention the military is required to use ‘Humane” Full Metal Jacket ammunition. Interesting that someone suggested this ammunition was for training. Sorry, this ammunition is intended to be a people stopper. Our military gets stuck with 9mm, and DHS is given the much more potent .40 SW with expandable ammunition. As Alice said, curiouser and curiouser!
Gunner
He writes a check, it gets cashed. There is no “cutting off the funds”.
That’s 2,250 rounds _each_.
And most of ‘em won’t be getting _any_.
DHS has three weapons training facilities, each of which expend about 20m rounds a year. The Federal Marshals service and the FBI have their own weapons training facilities. So just as a guesstimate, you are looking at around 100m rounds for training every year.
Based on the downright enormous training ammo consumption seen every year in the US military, a contract of just 450m rounds does not come across as that outrageous.
Who the hell has target practice with hollow points? No one.
Not their money. It wouldn’t surprise me if they bought 100,000 Rush Limbaugh posters, *from* Rush Limbaugh, to use as target practice.
I once got to see the US Army utterly squander $50m, based on a rumor that two congressmen were coming to visit. Instead, two Podunk state legislators drove up and said, “Whar’s the party?” (that’s a quote.) They looked like used car salesmen.
DHS probably brags of the “cost savings”, because they *could* have had the bullets plated with silver and demanded micro-stamping firing pins.
“You don’t need to use expensive “ultra high performance optimum penetration” for target practice. It is ‘special purpose’ ammo designed for one purpose, i.e., killing people/citizens.”
Paranoid.
You have some specific details about this ammo?
The company does make some bullets similar to Gold Dot, a quality bullet. There are “worse” ones. You know, like the ‘cop killers’.
“Like you being an over-reactive ATF troll?”
Delusional.
Given the vast ignorance of people’s posts (here and other places) concerning ammo and this purchase, it’s no surprise the nuts became so vocal.
If someone can’t understand something, they tend to get angry and\or fearful of it.
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