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Trayvon Martin shooting: It's not George Zimmerman crying for help on 911 recording, 2 experts say
Chicago Tribune ^ | 3/31/12 | Jeff Weiner

Posted on 03/31/2012 4:44:41 PM PDT by Krankor

As the Trayvon Martin controversy splinters into a debate about self-defense, a central question remains: Who was heard crying for help on a 911 call in the moments before the teen was shot?

A leading expert in the field of forensic voice identification sought to answer that question by analyzing the recordings for the Orlando Sentinel.

His result: It was not George Zimmerman who called for help.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; trayvonmartin
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To: floriduh voter

Read your Tag. Read her Bio. With her minor exploits in NY politics she is now just a has been TV commentator on a has been TV channe!.
Maybe you should ask her what her position is on the Robert Champion/FAMU case in FLORIDUH?
From what I read no one at FAMU, faculty, alumni or students really are pushing for justice for poor old Robert.
But of course his parents are suing some poor bus driver and the small companyshe works for,because no one at FAMU gives Rat’s Patooie for real justice. Why not sue FAMU?
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57405383-504083/famu-hazing-death-case-of-robert-champion-turned-over-to-prosecutors/


421 posted on 04/01/2012 11:19:37 AM PDT by GOYAKLA (Recall/ Impeachment Day, November 6, 2012. FUBO)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Martin was just walking back to Zimmerman’s truck to get a light for his cccigarette, when Zimmerman pulled his gun and shot Trayvon just for kicks....sheesh....I thought everyone knew this : )

Zimmerman proceeded to break his own nose, bang his head on the cement, and roll around on the ground.

Wait that doesn’t make sense. Why didn’t any of the witnesses coming forward now see any of this? Oops! I just provided next week’s witnesses with a blueprint.

“New Witness Saw Zimmerman Breaking Own Nose”


422 posted on 04/01/2012 11:25:58 AM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: 101stAirborneVet
Some evidence could still come out that shows Zimmerman was brandishing his weapon towards Trayvon or giving Trayvon some other legally-valid reason to be resorting to physical violence against Zimmerman. But everything I have seen so far is consistent with a kid, starting to embrace the gangsta culture in his Twitter posts and photos, taking umbrage with getting followed, and then acting out the gangsta street creed by assaulting Zimmerman for disrespecting him.

I don't have any particular emotional need to 'support' Zimmerman over Trayvon. If evidence comes out that pokes holes in Zimmerman's story, then let's see it and put Zimmerman on trial if that is warranted by the evidence. But I sure as heck ain't going to cotton to pinheads using FR to promote the left-wing attack agenda against Zimmerman that is based on lies, emotionalism, manipulation of evidence and intimidation.

423 posted on 04/01/2012 11:31:34 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: trappedincanuckistan

Wait long enough, and somebody will provide a link to it....

LOL!

“New Witness Saw Zimmerman Breaking Own Nose”


424 posted on 04/01/2012 11:38:01 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: 101stAirborneVet

I’ve been wondering the same thing myself. There are several longtime Freepers repeating some real nonsense and completely ignoring evidence that is available.


425 posted on 04/01/2012 11:39:02 AM PDT by PhatHead
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To: stephenjohnbanker

“NBC News has received exclusive footage from an anonymous source showing George Zimmerman banging his head on the sidewalk......”


426 posted on 04/01/2012 11:41:40 AM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: trappedincanuckistan
“New Witness Saw Zimmerman Breaking Own Nose”

And Democracy Now! will recycle footage from Liar, Liar! where Jim Carrey kicks his own a** as proof that it could be possible.

427 posted on 04/01/2012 11:42:39 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: PhatHead; dirtboy; 101stAirborneVet; trappedincanuckistan

If concrete evidence does surface, all of us will look at it fairly. Lately though, all I have seen is propaganda from letists who have an axe to grind. This didn’t happen yesterday.


428 posted on 04/01/2012 11:45:23 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: trappedincanuckistan

” “NBC News has received exclusive footage from an anonymous source showing George Zimmerman banging his head on the sidewalk......””

Unfortunately, we cannot show you the footage, because the anonymous source is in the footage, and he prefers to remain anonymous......


429 posted on 04/01/2012 11:48:04 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

“If concrete evidence does surface, all of us will look at it fairly.”

Absolutely. I’m for following evidence no matter where it leads. Unfortunately, all we’ve had so far is the media, race baiters and hard left trying to upend the idea of innocent until proven guilty.


430 posted on 04/01/2012 11:52:00 AM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: dirtboy
Some evidence could still come out that shows Zimmerman was brandishing his weapon towards Trayvon or giving Trayvon some other legally-valid reason to be resorting to physical violence against Zimmerman. But everything I have seen so far is consistent with a kid, starting to embrace the gangsta culture in his Twitter posts and photos, taking umbrage with getting followed, and then acting out the gangsta street creed by assaulting Zimmerman for disrespecting him.

I think your scenario is the best fit for the facts up to the point of the use of the gun. I think there was a point where Martin finally saw the gun and at that point both were in fear of getting shot. Martin could have went for the gun to protect his own life but at that point Zimmerman has to assume that Martin's intention is to kill him and thus is in fear of his own life and is justified using it for self defense.

Tragic but not all tragedies are criminal.

431 posted on 04/01/2012 11:52:24 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
Tragic but not all tragedies are criminal.

That's the part that folks who are arguing this emotionally don't want to accept.

432 posted on 04/01/2012 11:57:17 AM PDT by PhatHead
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To: floriduh voter

Judge JEANINE PIRRO.


433 posted on 04/01/2012 11:57:33 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: trappedincanuckistan

2 quotes that the authors would like to retract

Obama: “ If I had a son.....”

Al Sharpton: “ The boy was juz goin to the sto for skillets “


434 posted on 04/01/2012 11:59:21 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: 101stAirborneVet

That is a good and imo accurate summary of these “Lynch Zimmerman” posters on this thread.

I can never remember from a few days ago, who said what but I hope some people on this thread do remember them as hard evidence comes out.


435 posted on 04/01/2012 12:02:52 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I’m thinking Jesse would like to take back the “Zimmerman shot Trayvon in the back of the head” thing. BTW did anyone ever call Jackson out on that?


436 posted on 04/01/2012 12:02:52 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; dirtboy; 101stAirborneVet; trappedincanuckistan
If concrete evidence does surface, all of us will look at it fairly.

Certainly. At this point it is perfectly legitimate to believe that Zimmerman committed no crime. It is also legitimate to believe that, even if your "gut" tells you he may have, there isn't actual evidence of that. We may well learn something more - the police have obviously not released all that they know. But those who shrilly assert that it is "obvious" that Zimmerman is guilty, in my view, are basing that conclusion on something other than evaluating the known facts. And my saying that is not "defending Zimmerman."

437 posted on 04/01/2012 12:02:56 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: jwalsh07

” I think your scenario is the best fit for the facts up to the point of the use of the gun. I think there was a point where Martin finally saw the gun and at that point both were in fear of getting shot. Martin could have went for the gun to protect his own life but at that point Zimmerman has to assume that Martin’s intention is to kill him and thus is in fear of his own life and is justified using it for self defense.”

Until and unless some proof comes forth to negate this, it is in all likelihood what happened.


438 posted on 04/01/2012 12:02:56 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: trappedincanuckistan

” I’m thinking Jesse would like to take back the “Zimmerman shot Trayvon in the back of the head” thing. BTW did anyone ever call Jackson out on that?”

Probably not. The only national figure with less credibility than Sharpton, is Jesse : )


439 posted on 04/01/2012 12:04:42 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Does anyone have any more information on the voice analysis? Someone on another thread provided a link to an article asserting the analysts were hired by the Martin family lawyers.


440 posted on 04/01/2012 12:09:00 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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