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To: Westbrook

It’s still a collectivist statist model.

Not acceptable.


I have no desire to be confrontational, but I do want your opinion on this.
For a little background, homeschooling is almost impossible here in the UK. Sure, my wife and I taught our kids after school. We do it for the grandkids now. Both of us still work full time and have all our lives, barring the 7 years when my wife had the kids and stayed home to look after them.

So what are we supposed to do with the kids during the day? Can’t take them to work (Ironically, I was a teacher for many of those years). Can’t leave them on their own. We had to move where the work was, so family were several hundred miles away. We couldn’t drop a job - her staying home was worth it but nearly sank us, and we are VERY careful with money.
It has taken nearly 20 years for us to get back to where we were before the eldest was born.

I am solidly in favor of homeschooling, the kids learn faster and understand more, but when you need both parents working to make sure the children have a meal and a roof over their heads to come home to, schools are a blessing.

So my question is, how do you fix that?


28 posted on 04/01/2012 2:10:55 AM PDT by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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To: EnglishCon

> I have no desire to be confrontational,

I must apologize if I seemed confrontational, as you are not at all so.

Please contact the Homeschool Legal Defense Association, http://www.hslda.org/ for the best options for your country and situation.

Apparently, they have enjoyed a homescchool victory in Canada, recently.
http://www.hslda.org/docs/news/2012/201203271.asp

Given your situation, however, homeschooling may not be practical. If you are churchgoers, perhaps you can organize a church school with like-minded parents and grandparents in your situation. You would basically be establishing a one-room schoolhouse after the Noah Webster model.

You could hire one or more of your church members to teach the school. That means that the participating parents and relatives would share the costs, and perhaps your church or its overseeing denomination would be able to assist financially.

If you conduct your school on church property, you may have to get some kind of permission from the town council to allow it. The Mohammedans do this with their madrassas throughout the world, including Commonwealth nations and the Dominion of Canada. Why should Christians be excluded?


31 posted on 04/01/2012 5:50:46 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: EnglishCon
1) Afterschooling, ( AKA: “helping kids after school”), is **more** work than homeschooling. Why? Because some school homework is redundant and/or stupid, and more time is spent undoing the indoctrination than if it was taught correctly the first time.

2) Are you admitting that government socialist-entitlement schooling is a baby sitting service? It costs up to a quarter of a million dollars per child for government K-12 schooling in the U.S.. That's expensive babysitting!

3) Often when the second parent goes out to work, it doesn't bring in that much money. Once the costs of babysitting, travel, taxes, and other expenses associated with working are considered, the second parent is literally working for pennies an hour.

4) Homeschooling gives the family much more flexibility in where they live. Their home purchases are not driven by finding so called “good” schools. This can be a tremendous savings for them.

5) Finally, I think that once parents have children they should give up the idea of financially getting back to where they were before.

32 posted on 04/01/2012 5:54:13 AM PDT by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: EnglishCon

Kill the welfare state so a family can make it on one income.

Imagine if,say, half your taxes went away.


48 posted on 04/02/2012 7:14:50 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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