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Yet, George was following Trayvon around in a pickup truck ~ and eventually shot him to death with a firearm.

The police report shows that all Trayon had was a bag of candy, a can of tea and $22.

I gather there's a crowd here getting their yuck yucks by citing the adventures of a far older Trayvon Martin ~ I've seen that stuff before.

Years back a crowd of racists ran an attack on me at work. They ridiculed my car pool buddy, among others, and included Long Dong Silver in the material they thought should be appropriate to that sort of campaign.

Watching people at FR do the same sort of thing with respect to Trayvon angers me and brings back bad memories.

Why do you imagine you are INVISIBLE in this?

I gather there's a crowd here getting their yuck yucks by citing the adventures of a far older Trayvon Martin

I sure hope you're wrong about that. I think it more likely that many folks here simply wonder about the way the story was initially portrayed.

There is no doubt that Zimmerman is a fool. It is foolish for any private citizen to, essentially, stalk someone. If anyone started following me around, yeah, I'd get antsy and a bit tense. (And, no, a "neighborhood watch" isn't anything magical or special.)

But is Zimmerman a murderer? It is possible that Zimmerman simply shot Martin without cause. But it is also possible that a frustrated Martin initiated a physical attack on Zimmerman.

There's no excuse to shoot someone just for walking through your neighborhood, gated or not. But there's also no excuse to beat on someone just because he's following you.

As Obama and Santorum should have said, this is a murky situation. We must wait until all the facts come out before branding either Zimmerman or Martin.

Yet, George was following Trayvon around in a pickup truck ~ and eventually shot him to death with a firearm.

The police report shows that all Trayon had was a bag of candy, a can of tea and $22.

I gather there’s a crowd here getting their yuck yucks by citing the adventures of a far older Trayvon Martin ~ I’ve seen that stuff before. . . . .

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You should perhaps do a little reading before you embarrass yourself with your display of ignorance.

There were witness who saw Zimmermon getting the crap beat out of him by Trayvon who was on top of him, who broke his nose and caused a cut on Zimmermons head that required stitches. Trayvon was a football player, 6’3’. According to Zimmermon he was attacked by Trayvon from behind and told by Trayvon that Trayvon was going to kill him. There is some evidence that Trayvon was in a gang. His girlfriend’s was talking to Trayvon on his cell phone at the time and pretty much backs up Zimmermons story. There are no “secret” witnesses. The Fox news interviewed witness simply didn’t want his name published. The police also interviewed a number of witness that support Zimmermans story. There were several 911 calls that say Trayvon was beating up Zimmerman. On at least one 911 call Zimmerman was heard screaming for help as he was getting his a$$ kicked. According to testimony Trayvon found Zimmermons gun and tried to take it away from him. The gun, a Kel-Tek PF9 holds 7 rounds in the magazine but an 8th round can be chambered. There were 7 rounds still in the magazine. That means the chambered round was fired and something kept the slide from going back far enough to reload the chamber from the magazine. This points to a fight over the gun.

Are there other possible explanations for the facts cited above? Sure, but those other explanations are not supported by any facts, yet.

We don’t know what happened yet. The police who investigated thought they knew what happened. The DA who got the police report declined to file charges. Unless you think the police and DA are racist people who will lie to let a white (actually Hispanic) off the hook then you have to believe that the preponderance of evidence supports that this was a self defense case.

Again, as horrible as the kids death is, so far ALL the facts point to self defense.

All this information is available, all you have to do is read. You should read before you make judgments, like Mr. Santorum did. His staff could have done a little research and then Santorum would have looked like the only enlightened person on this matter but instead he ate his foot.