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Witness: Zimmerman 'Never ... Tried To Help' Trayvon Martin
MSNBC ^ | March 25, 2012

Posted on 03/25/2012 12:30:48 PM PDT by Steelfish

Witness: Zimmerman 'Never ... Tried To Help' Trayvon Martin

By NBC News, msnbc.com staff and news services

A woman who says she and her roommate witnessed the final moments of Trayvon Martin's life told Dateline NBC that George Zimmerman had "his hands pressed on his back" and "never turned him over or tried to help him."

Zimmerman's lawyer, when shown part of the interview being aired Sunday night on Dateline, emphasized that his client would be claiming self-defense.

"I think there were efforts made to render aid to Trayvon," Craig Sonner told NBC's TODAY show.

Mary Cutcher told Dateline that she and her roommate both saw Zimmerman "straddling the body, basically a foot on both sides of Trayvon's body, and his hands pressed on his back."

Cutcher added that Zimmerman told her and her roommate to call the police. "Zimmerman never turned him over or tried to help him or CPR or anything," Cutcher said.

Sonner also reiterated what he had said in recent days, that Zimmerman suffered a broken nose and a gash to the back of his head.

A friend of Zimmerman's who appeared on TODAY with Sonner added that Zimmerman, 28, was distraught over the teen's death.

"Right after the shooting he couldn't stop crying," said Joe Oliver, who is African American and a former TV reporetr and anchor in Orlando.

Zimmerman has not been charged in the Feb. 26 shooting that has ignited racial tensions and raised questions about the Sanford police's handling of the case. Martin was black, and Zimmerman's father is white and his mother is Hispanic.

In a separate interview Sunday, Oliver said that "I'm a black male and all that I know is that George has never given me any reason whatsoever to believe he has anything against people of color.''

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: georgezimmerman; trayvonmartin
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To: Steelfish

“Mary Cutcher told Dateline that she and her roommate both saw Zimmerman “straddling the body, basically a foot on both sides of Trayvon’s body, and his hands pressed on his back.”

My understanding (which is consistent with the use of the word “body”) is that the situation being described by Cutcher took place AFTER the shooting. A witness (”John”) described Martin being on top of Zimmerman punching him in the face prior to the shooting (consistent with Zimmerman’s facial wounds).


21 posted on 03/25/2012 12:47:40 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: rlmorel

Constitution...Rule of Law...Due Process...Innocent Until Proven Guilty. America.


22 posted on 03/25/2012 12:47:40 PM PDT by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Steelfish
Mary Cutcher told Dateline that she and her roommate both saw Zimmerman “straddling the body, basically a foot on both sides of Trayvon’s body, and his hands pressed on his back.”

Contradicts your version, does it not?


No, it doesn't. Where do they say he was shot while in this position? It makes total sense that he would be laying on his back after being shot and rolled off of the shooter. How do know that he wasn't trying to stop the bleeding?
23 posted on 03/25/2012 12:47:53 PM PDT by WackySam (Obama got Osama just like Nixon landed on the moon.)
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To: Steelfish

Wasn’t Trayvon dead at this point? How do you help a dead man?


24 posted on 03/25/2012 12:48:01 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

If someone has me pinned to the ground, already broken my nose, and is still pummeling me, I’ll do any and EVERYTHING to stop him.


25 posted on 03/25/2012 12:48:58 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Steelfish
I watched her interview. I am not buying it. I smell a rat.

26 posted on 03/25/2012 12:48:58 PM PDT by rlmorel (A knife in the chest from a unapologetic liberal is preferable to a knife in the back from a RINO.)
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To: Steelfish
Never tried to help? Maybe he was applying pressure to a wound. I dunno. Seems the beating had stopped, so he had no reason to (and there is no evidence he did) continue to use force of violence against Trayvon.

I imagine he's pretty high on adrenaline at this point. I have no idea what his skills and training are, as far as first aid in a life threatening trauma. Most people are taught to not move the person around, as that has a risk of aggravating injury.

27 posted on 03/25/2012 12:50:36 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: ColdOne

“How do you help a dead man?”

If the stiff is Osama Bin Laden, you give him a quick burial at sea.


28 posted on 03/25/2012 12:50:43 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: WackySam

Why would Zimmerman be doing this to someone who is already dead?


29 posted on 03/25/2012 12:51:50 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Parley Baer

Ignore jacknhoo - it’s just stirring the pot for entertainment.


30 posted on 03/25/2012 12:52:40 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Steelfish

I guess no one has ever been beaten to death with fists?
Whether an attack is life threatening or not is dependent on the victims immediate thoughts and perceptions. So when is he allowed to shoot, before or after he goes unconcious, leaving him with no protection?

Zimmerman should have never gotten out of his vehicle, but that doesnt mean he should be beaten to a pulp or worse.

Spend a couple of nights in the hood without a weapon and report back to me...if you can.....

Do you think Zimmerman can get an impartial jury and a fair trial now?


31 posted on 03/25/2012 12:52:53 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: BenLurkin

Yep! Help the Perp? No way I will help the Perp! Unless he is in my house bleeding out on the carpet. Then I am headed toward the shower curtain to try and get him on it and off my carpet!

“Officer all I was trying to do was get him onto something where my wife and I could handle him to get him into my car so we could get him quickly to the ER. But darn he died!”


32 posted on 03/25/2012 12:53:35 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: rlmorel

I think you might be right, r.


33 posted on 03/25/2012 12:53:35 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (I'll "vote for an orange juice can", over Barry 0bummer and another 4yrs of his Regime From Hell!)
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To: rlmorel

They have had plenty of time by now to cook up any story they want....there will, no doubt, be more.


34 posted on 03/25/2012 12:53:48 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

hehehehe!


35 posted on 03/25/2012 12:54:55 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: hal ogen
Yeah. It used to be. How things have changed. There is no rule of law, the law is what some people want it to be on any given day. Contracts mean nothing anymore. A man's word means nothing to many people.

Legislators openly disregard the Constitution with no ramifications.

I took an oath once that had the following verbiage about defending the Constitution: "...enemies foreign and domestic..."

36 posted on 03/25/2012 12:56:23 PM PDT by rlmorel (A knife in the chest from a unapologetic liberal is preferable to a knife in the back from a RINO.)
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To: WackySam
You cannot start a fight and then claim stand your ground, so says, the man who authored the law and the governor that signed the law and everyone that voted for the law that has been ask. Zimmerman started a fight and then murdered the kid.
37 posted on 03/25/2012 12:56:32 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Steelfish
Non-Deadly attack? Are you insane? You can easily kill a person with your bare hands. I still don't know the whole story and neither does anyone else, IMO, so your assertion is absurd at this point.

Hopefully, all will become clear in the near future.

38 posted on 03/25/2012 12:57:13 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

39 posted on 03/25/2012 12:59:07 PM PDT by rlmorel (A knife in the chest from a unapologetic liberal is preferable to a knife in the back from a RINO.)
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To: org.whodat
Prove it.

Were you there? If not, your assertion is based upon here-say and is irrelevant.

When the facts finally all come to light, perhaps you will be correct, but at this point in time you are being prejudicial towards Zimmerman out of ignorance, IMO.

40 posted on 03/25/2012 1:00:22 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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