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To: trappedincanuckistan
How do you know Zimmerman confronted or interfered with Martin?

This is what we DO know: The deceased was on his way home from the store. He and Zimmerman "somehow" crossed paths.

Now NO EVIDENCE has been presented that the deceased was involved in a crime. Therefore the question that must be answered is that how did the deceased come to the attention of Zimmerman? And Zimmerman who had acted on other occasions as a "self appointed neighborhood watchman" (this is by his own admission), was "out on patrol" and somehow OBSERVES the deceased and states as his probable cause the deceased was "suspicious", (again the reason given by Zimmerman during the conversation with the police dispatcher)

So Zimmerman decides to shadow or otherwise stalk the deceased either on foot or from within his vehicle.(Again this is from the running conversation Zimmerman is having with the police dispatcher.

Zimmerman is ADVISED not to confront or contact the deceased by the police dispatcher. Everyone agrees on that point

Somewhere along the line Zimmerman DOES establish contact and a struggle ensues that results in Zimmerman shooting the deceased.

The question is WHY did Zimmerman establish contact even after being informed that the police were on there way and that he should stand down?

What did Zimmerman do that caused the struggle to break out? Did he attempt to detain the deceased at gunpoint? Was there a struggle over the gun? Did Zimmerman order the deceased to stop and submit to a search? Did Zimmerman attempt to lay hands on the deceased? What?

Any attempt by Zimmerman to get physical would result in a fight.
92 posted on 03/24/2012 1:36:19 PM PDT by Rooivalk
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To: Rooivalk
Somewhere along the line Zimmerman DOES establish contact and a struggle ensues that results in Zimmerman shooting the deceased.

BZZZT! Once again, you have no proof that it was Zimmerman who initiated the direct contact. Martin could have gotten upset that Zimmerman was monitoring him and turned to confront Zimmerman. We simply don't know.

Try formulating your opinions around actual, demonstrable facts and if there are no facts, leave that aspect as an unknown until we get more information.

96 posted on 03/24/2012 1:39:50 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Rooivalk

You’re jumping to so many conclusions, and posing scenarios that are not supported by evidence. Let me pose a scenario to you. It’s based on cell phone records, police reports (physical evidence), witness statements and Zimmerman;s statement. Zimmerman spots an unfamiliar face in the neighborhood. He calls the police. Martin runs (I don’t know why, but that is what the call to the police indicates). Zimmerman gets out of his truck to keep Martin in sight. He loses sight. He begins to return to his truck. Martin feeling disrespected or threatened (which if he did indeed turn around negates being threatened) or whatever jumps Zimmerman. Zimmerman shoots Martin in self defense.

That scenario is supported by evidence. You have absolutely none to support yours. That is why Zimmerman was not arrested that night. Period.


101 posted on 03/24/2012 1:54:20 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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