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In Defense of George Zimmerman (vanity)

Posted on 03/24/2012 9:55:26 AM PDT by TigerClaws

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To: jpsb; Hulka
if the assault took place near Zs' SUV then that lends credence to Zs' claim that he was returning to his vehicle and was not in pursuit.

It didn't. It occurred on the opposite side of a row of housed, as far away from Zimmerman's truck as it was possible to be. Lends credence to the theory Zimmerman had cut ahead of Martin to intercept him

121 posted on 03/24/2012 5:37:14 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Zimmerman told the police dispatcher that he had lost Martin.

Martin told his girlfriend he had lost Zimmerman.

How was Zimmerman supposed to initiate violence when he didn’t even know where Martin was?


122 posted on 03/24/2012 5:41:01 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: palmer

Actually there are TWO other Facebook Trayvons, one in Chicago, one in Georgia.


123 posted on 03/24/2012 5:43:48 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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To: Rooivalk

He didn’t set up the program. He was simply a part of the problem that Neighborhood Programs cause. In this case he was the point man.

The whole system that allows these individuals this kind of power is obviously flawed and should be disbanded.

As I pointed out, your thinking was shallow and shortsighted.

The young hero would be alive today if it weren’t for the Program.


124 posted on 03/24/2012 5:47:34 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: TigerClaws

I just received a question from a pen pal friend: (caution, provocative)

What will happen on your Free Republic, when it comes out in a day or two that George Zimmerman had converted to Islam?

(I think he meant ‘if’ not ‘when’ - Rc!)


125 posted on 03/24/2012 5:51:46 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Oztrich Boy
"as far away from Zimmerman's truck as it was possible to be"

Well that lends credence to Martin being in fear from a pursuer and confronting him. I am slowly moving to Martin side on this, but still waiting to hear more better evidence. Clearly Z was over zealous to say the least. Perhaps he pushed Martin into fearing for this life, forcing Martin to either flee or fight?

126 posted on 03/24/2012 6:14:08 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: Oztrich Boy
It didn't. It occurred on the opposite side of a row of housed, as far away from Zimmerman's truck as it was possible to be. Lends credence to the theory Zimmerman had cut ahead of Martin to intercept him

I've been looking and I can't find a map showing the particulars of what happened where. Do you have a link to your info?

127 posted on 03/24/2012 6:15:18 PM PDT by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: trappedincanuckistan
Zimmerman told the police dispatcher that he had lost Martin.
Martin told his girlfriend he had lost Zimmerman.
How was Zimmerman supposed to initiate violence when he didn’t even know where Martin was?

Zimmerman never told the disapatcher either that he lost Martin or that he was going back to his truck.

He did tell the dispatcher that he thought Martin was making for the other entrance to the community. He could well have acted on that assumption by going through the cutthrough at the the other end of the row of buildings to intercept Martin's route. Which would place the incident right where Martin's body was found.

More logical than Zimmerman dragging Martin's body from the truck to behind the row of houses

128 posted on 03/24/2012 6:23:27 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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To: trappedincanuckistan

Don’t know what his intention was, but on the tape that Hannity played the other day, his tone of voice, which had been matter of fact, suddenly changed and tightened up. He said “They always get away.” So why would he care that much? All the same same getting out of the truck took him in dangerous territory. Like following a suspect off a lighted street into a dark alley. Too easy to get blind-sided even if you have a gun in hand with the safety off.


129 posted on 03/24/2012 6:36:03 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Wissa
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2862627/posts?page=122#122

From Zimmereman's statements to the dispatcher it appears that his truck was parked at the Twin Trees Lane bend.

Currently my belief is that Martin, not familar with the area, ran down the pathway at the end of the row of houses.

Zimmerman, familar with the area and believing Martin was making for the other entrance to the community, went through the cut-through at the other end to intercept.

130 posted on 03/24/2012 6:38:37 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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To: Oztrich Boy

“He could well have acted on that assumption by going through the cutthrough at the the other end of the row of buildings to intercept Martin’s route.”

More speculation?

And Zimmerman did say “I don’t know where this kid is.”


131 posted on 03/24/2012 6:42:22 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: Revolting cat!
What will happen on your Free Republic, when it comes out in a day or two that George Zimmerman had converted to Islam?

I, for one, would continue to support the rule of law and the necessity for probable cause before he can be arrested. I wouldn't accept Sharia as a departure from the law in his favor, nor will I stray from the rule of law against him simply because he is of a religion I disapprove of.

132 posted on 03/24/2012 6:46:12 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: Oztrich Boy

Thanks for the info.


133 posted on 03/24/2012 6:49:28 PM PDT by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: 101stAirborneVet

Good. I was afraid after I posted this joke from a friend that it would stir the hornet’s nest even more than it has been stirred.


134 posted on 03/24/2012 6:49:38 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Oztrich Boy

“More logical than Zimmerman dragging Martin’s body from the truck to behind the row of houses”

According to the anonymous witness the scuffle and shooting took place behind the row of houses. Who said anything about dragging a body anywhere? Man you are right out there.


135 posted on 03/24/2012 6:52:38 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: trappedincanuckistan
And Zimmerman did say “I don’t know where this kid is.”

Well not the specific location. right then (19:14:47)

But he had an idea where the kid was making for ("Down towards the, uh, other entrance to the neighborhood." - 19:13:23) and he was near "it’s a cut through" (19:14:33)

So speculation, but grounded in fact. Add to the fact the Martin intially ran, then phoned his girl to tell her he was going to walk fast get away from the weird dude, I'd say the encounter resulted from Zimmerman's interception is also a fair assumption.

136 posted on 03/24/2012 6:58:29 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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To: trappedincanuckistan
According to the anonymous witness the scuffle and shooting took place behind the row of houses. Who said anything about dragging a body anywhere? ...

All the people who initially claimed Zimmerman had just got out of his truck to read the street signs when Martin jumped him.

And I prefered Zimmerman dragging Martin's dead body to Martin dragging a resisting Zimmerman. I agree neither scenario seems likely.

137 posted on 03/24/2012 7:05:07 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Going back a couple of posts Zimmerman told police he was on his way back to his truck.

“Zimmerman told police Martin attacked him after he had given up chasing the teenager and was returning to his sport utility vehicle.”

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2012/mar/23/fla-watch-captain-attorney-client-not-racist/

As to the last post you are speculating and making assumptions. You admit as much. Get back to me when you have proof. Evidence.


138 posted on 03/24/2012 7:05:49 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Read the last sentence:

Yes it will; however, the telecommunications call taker asked Zimmerman “are you following him”. Zimmerman replied, “yes”. The call taker stated “you don’t need to do that”. The call taker’s suggestion is not a lawful order that Mr. Zimmerman would be required to follow. Zimmerman’s statement was that he had lost sight of Trayvon and was returning to his truck to meet the police officer when he says he was attacked by Trayvon.


139 posted on 03/24/2012 7:06:06 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Oztrich Boy

Sorry I wasn’t one of those people that said anything about street signs or whatever.


140 posted on 03/24/2012 7:08:25 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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