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Witness Says Zimmerman was Attacked by Martin
Tampa Bay News ^ | 3/23/2012 | Tampa Bay News

Posted on 03/24/2012 6:02:04 AM PDT by Howard Morrison

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To: Howard Morrison

Someone earlier mentioned riots, the comment was removed? I remember the 1968 riots, The Chicago riots were sparked by the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. The D.C. Riots of 1968, Remember activist Stokely Carmichael and Friends accidently started 3 days of rioting that burned 1000 buildings and left 12 people dead, mostly burned to death in their homes. Do you think they’re not Abbie Hoffman’s, Tom Hayden’s, Jerry Rubin’s, Bobby Seale’s and Fred Hamptons out there ready for another fun summer. Can you guess what is coming next?


61 posted on 03/24/2012 8:26:12 AM PDT by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: Howard Morrison

This situation has been anticipated by the race baiters for such a long time coming that they, the Obama liberals, had all of these agitators (NAACP, Panthers, Van Jones, Sharpton and Jackson) on speed dial to start the marches and media circus for the next big fabricated issue in America.

It is so transparent what Obama is trying to accomplish here with the “contraception” issue (Womens vote) and now a racist injustice against an innocent “child”. (Black vote)

It proves that this is the only way he can get his base excited about Nov.


62 posted on 03/24/2012 8:38:05 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: varmintman

“Precipitated”? Zimmerman had the right to follow Martin and he had the right to ask him if he lived there. Zimmerman also had the right not to be jumped. Martin alone broke the law. Do you think that if someone asked you if you belonged in a certain place that you could attack him and then defend your actions claiming that the other fellow “precipitated it”? Do you think a jury would listen to you for a minute at your trial for assault and battery?


63 posted on 03/24/2012 8:46:43 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: hinckley buzzard
As usual the facts are slow to emerge while the rumors and suppositions of guilt advance at racehorse speed

Exactly. Everybody is jumping on this bandwagon to have Zimmerman arrested, including Glenn Beck was on a crusade yesterday on his show. I had to turn off the radio, he made me sick.

The police need to let people know that they have evidence contrary to the Al Sharpton version. I believe that most of the evidence is sealed for the Grand Jury but keeping quiet is destructive and fanning the flames right now.

64 posted on 03/24/2012 8:52:59 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: nuconvert
Yes, he did. But that doesn’t matter. If Zimmerman was being beaten to a point where he felt his life was in danger, he had the right to use his gun, whether he instigated the situation or not. It’s one thing to be punched a few times, it’s another to have to lie there and be beaten to death.

There's an element of territory in any sort of a story like this one.... Had Zimmerman been inside his own home and killed the kid it would be one thing and even if he were simply standing his own ground in some public place and were attacked for no rational reason he might get by with it; but Zimmerman basically provoked this incident and then left the kid dead and unable to tell his side of the story. If I'm the judge, the burden of proof is now on Zimmerman.

We have a guy pretty much like Zimmerman where I live who thinks God or St. Michael or somebody has appointed him the parking vigilante of the region, and the situation is highly likely to end up with somebody getting seriously hurt or killed just like this story, so I don't have a whole lot of sympathy.

65 posted on 03/24/2012 8:59:44 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: Howard Morrison

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While the Zimmerman/Martin ‘white’ on black killing is covered 24/7 on the MSM with an outpouring of rage and charges of a racial hate crime, where is the concern- where is the rage about the home invasion, torture, beating, rape and murder of the elderly white couple by a gang of feral blacks in Oklahoma just last week?

The 90 year old war veteran husband was beaten and his jaw broken. He was shot in the face numerous times with a BB gun and sent to the hospital in critical condition.

The 85 year old partially blind wife was RAPED and then BEATEN TO DEATH.
(She was most likely gang raped numerous times...but we will never know for sure)

Both the husband and wife were weak, having just gotten over the flu.

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There’s a lot more involved here than a home invasion and robbery.

WHERE ARE THE CHARGES OF A RACIAL HATE CRIME??

90 year old husband’s jaw broken and shot in face with a BB gun numerous times?

85 wife year old semi blind wife RAPED and BEATEN to death??

Where is the 24/7 MSM coverage?

Where is the outrage?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117695/Brutal-home-invasion-Oklahoma-couple-ends-65-year-romance-meeting-blind-date.html


66 posted on 03/24/2012 9:17:24 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Howard Morrison

This story reflects why it’s best to reserve judgment until all the facts come out and the investigation is complete. If there’s a witness corroborating Zimmerman’s self-defense claim than it sounds like a lot of people from pundits to politicians have rushed to judgment in convicting him in the press.


67 posted on 03/24/2012 9:51:41 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: AtlasStalled
This story reflects why it’s best to reserve judgment until all the facts come out and the investigation is complete. If there’s a witness corroborating Zimmerman’s self-defense claim than it sounds like a lot of people from pundits to politicians have rushed to judgment in convicting him in the press.

Not if Zimmerman was getting the crap kicked out of him as a result of pursuing and harassing someone, especially after having been told by 911 not to leave his vehicle and actively disregarding Neighborhood Watch guidelines.
68 posted on 03/24/2012 9:55:42 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: heartwood

I think Martin attacked Zimmerman, and Zimmerman was on the ground, screaming for help and getting his a*& kicked by a 6’2” ghetto thug.

I think he got the gun out and shot Trayvon, in self defense.

He probably shouldn’t have followed him, as in America, anymore, we cannot protect our homes a families. We have to have 911 operators tell elderly women who find naked, drugged out their minds men hiding in their closets to “stop shooting” crack heads who are attacking them.

REDDING, Calif. (KABC) — A chilling story is told on 911 tapes as a Northern California woman discovers a man breaking into her home.

Donna Hopper, 66, of Redding grabs her gun and her phone as she confronts him.

Hopper fired that gun for the first time in her life to scare off the intruder.

Two shots didn’t do the trick, so she fired a third shot.

The suspect, 37-year-old Jesse Theis, was shot dead.

The 911 operator can be heard telling Hopper to put the gun down and wait for police to arrive.

She was later cleared of any wrongdoing.


69 posted on 03/24/2012 9:56:37 AM PDT by baileybat
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To: itsLUCKY2B
No, here is the Tyke...


70 posted on 03/24/2012 10:01:22 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: rawhide
The guy on the bottom who had a red sweater on was yelling to me: 'help, help…and I told him to stop and I was calling 911," he said.

No new information here. The witness arrived after the fight began. He did not see who started it, only who was 'on top' when he came upon the scene.

71 posted on 03/24/2012 10:10:28 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: Marguerite

“Where was Obama’s stand on that?”

Good question. Aren’t we all waiting for him to come out and say the pers could have been his sons?


72 posted on 03/24/2012 10:17:25 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: varmintman

You’re kidding, right? With that logic, the only way Zimmerman would not be guilty was if he hid under his bed all day and Martin broke into his house and started beating on him.


73 posted on 03/24/2012 10:28:13 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: itsLUCKY2B; PhilDragoo

Where did you locate that one?

(Another possible one if you are interested, PD.)


74 posted on 03/24/2012 10:36:04 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: little jeremiah; PhilDragoo
Where did you locate that one? (Another possible one if you are interested, PD.)

Unfortunately, that's not 'our' Trayvon. But you knew that, didn't you ...

75 posted on 03/24/2012 10:52:44 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: Alice in Wonderland

I don’t “do” FB. Someone I know does FB and the original two photos from FB. Later on they were scrubbed.

Until someone with technical ability looks into all the T.Martin FB pages and finds when they were put up, taken down and all the rest, I don’t know the truth and neither do you.


76 posted on 03/24/2012 11:09:00 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: varmintman

As far as I know, provocation doesn’t come into it...As long as it wasn’t purposely set up as a premeditated murder.


77 posted on 03/24/2012 11:11:47 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: heartwood

“He wasn’t looking in any little girl’s window”.

And you know this how? Were you there? Maybe you need to read the new reports that vindicate Zimmerman with an eye witness report that ZIMMERMAN was the guy screaming for help as the “poor innocent” six foot football player Trayvon was ON TOP OF Zimmeerman pummeling him.


78 posted on 03/24/2012 2:02:05 PM PDT by dewawi
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