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George Zimmerman, Trayvon Martin case: Neighbors describe watch leader blamed for teen's death
wptv ^ | 3/23/2012

Posted on 03/23/2012 4:58:09 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

Current and former neighbors call George Zimmerman caring, passionate and polite, a regular guy they enjoyed being around...

"The portrayal of George Zimmerman in the media, as well as the series of events that led to the tragic shooting, are false and extremely misleading," his father, a retired magistrate judge, wrote in a letter published in the Orlando Sentinel. "Unfortunately, some individuals and organizations have used this tragedy to further their own causes and agendas."

"George is a Spanish-speaking minority with many black family members and friends," Robert Zimmerman wrote. "He would be the last to discriminate for any reason whatsoever."

(Excerpt) Read more at wptv.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: obamaagenda; race; trayvonmartin
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I have not personally done so. But I have read enough to know that the facts are still in dispute. What has been revealed, coupled with the racist attitudes on display make it tough to defend Mr. Zimmerman.

Not everyone who disagrees with chasing down “suspicious” people and shooting people is a leftist troll. Get a grip on yourself.

This Zimmerman gives rational gun owners a bad name. That’s hardly a “leftist troll” complaint.


81 posted on 03/23/2012 7:03:54 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Since when did such behavior become a death penalty crime?

Zimmerman did not witness any criminal behavior by Martin. Looking around at houses in a neighborhood you are unfamiliar with is not outside the range of normal innocent behavior. Zimmerman certainly was not in any danger of harm or being killed when he called police to report Martin.


82 posted on 03/23/2012 7:06:40 AM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: Jack Hydrazine; Clara Lou
Mr. Zimmerman headed back to his truck but did not make it because Trayvon turned around and jumped him.

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You keep spreading this fantasy without any evidence of any kind to support it.

When asked for the source of your fantasy you simply say "prove me wrong". IOW...prove that something isn't there (in the tapes).

Well, the proof is in the tapes themselves...they contain nothing that you state is there.

I read that Jack Hydrazine is a cross-dressing deadbeat who has been convicted of illegal relations with a goat....prove me wrong.

83 posted on 03/23/2012 7:06:54 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: SoothingDave

There we go. Finally! You are just repeating the Left’s lies and distortions. Benjamin Franklin is quoted as saying something to the effect, “If you don’t read the news you are uninformed. If you read the news you are mis-informed.”

Before you go and regurgitate their crap go and read the police reports and listen to the 911 calls. Otherwise you just make yourself look like a fool, an idiot, and a moron.


84 posted on 03/23/2012 7:08:42 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine; SoothingDave
Answer the question, moron. Did you or did you not read the police reports and listen to the 911 calls?

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I listened - twice. You are outright lying about what is in them.

85 posted on 03/23/2012 7:09:53 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: wtc911

I have read the police reports and listened to the 911 calls. The witnesses told police that Trayvon attacked him and fired in self defense. If the witnesses had seen it happen the other way around Mr. Zimmerman would be in jail.

Just shut up you Leftist troll.


86 posted on 03/23/2012 7:11:15 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: wtc911

No I am not you Leftist troll. You are also saying that Mr. Zimmerman is lying, the witnesses are lying, the police lying, and everyone who disagrees with you are lying and the only people telling the truth is the Leftist media and racebaiters!


87 posted on 03/23/2012 7:13:57 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

There are witnesses who contradict what Zimmerman told the police. I have listened to the 911 tapes and it sure as heck sounds like Martin howling, crying on the tapes.

I can find no witness statements that Zimmerman was jumped.


88 posted on 03/23/2012 7:15:02 AM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: G Larry

Your summary was helpful.

Thanks.


89 posted on 03/23/2012 7:18:42 AM PDT by super7man
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To: lastchance

The dead kid was seen on top of the shooter, beating him!

I don’t believe the “shot him running away” crap.


90 posted on 03/23/2012 7:22:41 AM PDT by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
No. You are lying. The tapes and reports are around for all to read. None of them state that Martin surprised and attacked Zimmerman...that is all you.

Want to show you're not lying...show the transcripts or reports that you claim to have read and that support your version...should be easy to do.

91 posted on 03/23/2012 7:26:54 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: SoothingDave
What have I said about the situation that is untrue?

How about the outright slander that ... "Like many FReepers, he was sure that any black person, especially one with a hoodie on, must be a criminal."

92 posted on 03/23/2012 7:27:11 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: G Larry

I know that but there (as far as I can find) not witness who states that Martin jumped Zimmerman.


93 posted on 03/23/2012 7:27:16 AM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: Dudoight

“Zimmerman was told not to follow Martin”

Wrong.

I’ve seen this asserted many times and it’s just not right. If it’s not too much trouble do you think it would be helpful not to spread misleading information?


94 posted on 03/23/2012 7:28:21 AM PDT by saleman (!!!!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; freeangel; Cowgirl of Justice; Cringing Negativism Network; rarestia; ...

Young black men killing each other is the most common way for a young black man to die.

Whites killing blacks is rare.

Hispanics killing black men is rare.

Black men killing black men is common.

The MSM doesn’t care about the slaughter in black communities with blacks killing blacks - because it’s NOT politically useful. The MSM turns black feelings of inferiority into rage - black groups into out-of-control vigilantes. The result is higher black voter turnout.

The ‘press’ knows what they’re doing. It’s not an accident - - they ARE aware - watch this and see..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBFOmUXR080


95 posted on 03/23/2012 7:30:41 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
A) "I have read the police reports and listened to the 911 calls. The witnesses told police that Trayvon attacked him and fired in self defense."

B) "Shut up you leftist troll."

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A) I read the reports and listened yo the tapes too. You are lying.

B) Want to shut me up? Show the witness tapes/statements that say that Martin attacked Zimmerman.

96 posted on 03/23/2012 7:31:21 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: lastchance
Zimmerman...figured he could follow this Martin and somehow prevent him from leaving till the cops got there. The problem with that is he made the judgment that Martin was guilty without having any probable cause to do so.

The problem with this theory is that Zimmerman had time to detain Trayvon Martin, if that was his intent, while he was observing him. Instead, he maintained his observational distance and was on the phone with Police.

97 posted on 03/23/2012 7:35:44 AM PDT by csense
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Let’s seewhat the National Sheriffs’ Association (NSA) of Florida has to say. “The alleged action of a ‘self-appointed neighborhood watchman’ last month in Sanford, FL significantly contradicts the principles of the Neighborhood Watch Program,” NSA Executive Director Sheriff Aaron D. Kennard, said in the press statement. “NSA has no information indicating the community where the incident occurred has ever even registered with the NSA Neighborhood Watch program.”

When 28-year-old George Zimmerman was discovered by Sanford, Florida police standing over the body of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, they accepted Zimmerman’s claim that he killed in self-defense as a neighborhood watch captain. Now, through a statement released by the National Sheriffs’ Association (NSA) — the parent organization of USAonWatch-Neighborhood Watch — it has been revealed that Zimmerman was not a member of any group recognized by the organization. Zimmerman violated the central tenets of Neighborhood Watch by following Martin, confronting him and carrying a concealed weapon.

“In no program that I have ever heard of does someone patrol with a gun in their pocket,” Carmen Caldwell, the Executive Director of Citizens’ Crime Watch of Miami-Dade, told theGrio. “Every city and municipality has their own policies. Here in Miami-Dade we train people only to be the eyes and ears of their communities. Not to follow and most definitely not to carry a weapon.”

Despite this, Zimmerman admitted that he had fired a weapon on the night of the incident. In addition, the non-emergency call Zimmerman placed on February 26 before the shooting revealed he had been pursuing Martin by car before accosting the youth on foot — all direct violations of Neighborhood Watch policies.

http://www.thegrio.com/specials/trayvon-martin/zimmerman-not-a-member-of-recognized-neighborhood-watch-organization.php?page=1


98 posted on 03/23/2012 7:37:50 AM PDT by anglian
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To: Servant of the Cross

Truth is a defense against slander. I didn’t say all FReepers, but there are too many to count that are obviously driven by racist beliefs.

Why the rush to defame the dead man?

Why is he referred to as a thug and a hood-rat? Why is his clothing an automatic reason to suspect him?

Don’t you have eyes?


99 posted on 03/23/2012 7:39:33 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: csense

It’s news to me that a neighborhood watch person has any authority to ‘detain’ anybody. I’m all for letting this case go to court, assuming there is an indictment, and withold NAACP conviction. WHY this bozo thought it was proper to do anything other than calling in the cops for cop work I can’t fathom. It’s called neighborhood WATCH, not neighborhood SHOOT.


100 posted on 03/23/2012 7:40:50 AM PDT by arrdon (Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.)
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