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Zimmerman-Martin 031912.docx (City Manager Statement)
Zimmerman-Martin 031912.docx ^ | 19 March, 2012 | Norton N. Bonaparte, Jr ICMA-CM City Manager

Posted on 03/22/2012 8:17:42 PM PDT by marktwain

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To: PhilDragoo

Okay. I see why maybe Zimmerman was nervous.


121 posted on 03/23/2012 7:19:09 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: little jeremiah

A name of color? what color is trayvon? Never heard of it.


122 posted on 03/23/2012 7:21:22 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: bguyj2012

No one thinks it’s ok to kill a kid just because of how he looks.

It is ok to kill a kid if he is sitting on your chest beating the hell out of you...

Has zero to do with what he looks like though.


123 posted on 03/23/2012 7:26:11 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: little jeremiah
Maybe stop drinking from the bottle that says “Drink Me”.

Kiss My Royal Irish A$$

124 posted on 03/23/2012 8:04:21 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: bguyj2012

Hello newbie. Color me suspicious. Pun intended.


125 posted on 03/23/2012 8:20:16 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Obama is afraid if he needs to start a fight with Catholics. He's losing the women vote!!!)
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To: marktwain
One thing that has bothered me is the type o sentiment expressed in this quote from the article:

The death of anyone due to violence, especially a 17 year old young man, is morally appalling

This assumes this was an innocent young man. There are MANY teenagers across this country who are up to no good. It is not a tragedy when ANYONE is killed. Sometimes it is necessary to protect the innocent.

126 posted on 03/23/2012 9:43:14 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Obama is afraid if he needs to start a fight with Catholics. He's losing the women vote!!!)
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To: bguyj2012; mojitojoe

A friend got it off his FaceBook page.

You’re a noob and a troll. “Racial profiling”? What kind of garbage is that? Martin was on top of Zimmerman beating him. You think Zimmerman should have just sacrificed himself?

And since the leftist media is showing only photos of Martin was he was several years younger, I think it’s in the interest of truth that photos of how he looked very recently to make it into the public eye.


127 posted on 03/23/2012 9:52:35 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: mojitojoe

Everyone is a person of color, unless they’re transparent...


128 posted on 03/23/2012 9:54:08 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: little jeremiah

you still dont get it. not every picture of every victim or perp in any situation is going to be one taken within the last few months or go.

maybe, just maybe they use those pictures to emphasize the point that he was still a child, not a grown man.

and again, those pictures are irrelevant to the investigation at hand. maybe photos of zimmerman with a bloody nose after the fight would be more appropriate.

To the poster who said you have the right to kill a person sitting on you beating you up: If that really was what happened, its a fight that Zimmerman instigated and started. And any sane person would retreat once they saw a gun, despite your assertion that he just kept pummeling away.
Also, lets look at the logistics of a struggle. Assume they were wrestling around. How was he able to get a clean shot at the guy’s chest while being pummelled? Instinct dictates that you throw your arms up to block the blows. If anything, Zimmerman probably showed the gun, told the kid to get down, mounted him, and shot him. The bloody nose and stains can be attributed to Zimmerman possibly pulling the guy to the ground and both of them falling.


129 posted on 03/24/2012 1:19:00 AM PDT by bguyj2012
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To: PghBaldy

Yeah, your racist pun didn’t fly over my head either.
Its nice that you try to use the possible race of a poster to discredit their arguments. Really nice.


130 posted on 03/24/2012 1:19:15 AM PDT by bguyj2012
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To: wtc911

“The same tape shows Zimmerman’s aggressive actions of following both in car and on foot.”

...as part of a Neighborhood Watch program. Your words are loaded and prejudicial.

“One was unarmed and avoided contact - one pursued with a gun.”

No. One initially avoided contact and ran like a criminal. The NWatch person pursued, waiting for police. Then what we know is that Zimmerman was getting the living crap beat out of him, before he shot the guy, amid screams for help.

Btw, the gun was legal and he carried a permit, something most FReepers advocate.


131 posted on 03/24/2012 1:59:04 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: bguyj2012

“If anything, Zimmerman probably showed the gun, told the kid to get down, mounted him, and shot him.”

LOL, that speculation isn’t supported by the facts known, and the opposite IS supported by audio from witnesses.


132 posted on 03/24/2012 2:31:36 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: rbmillerjr
One initially avoided contact and ran like a criminal. The NWatch person pursued,

_____________________________________________

Ran like a criminal????

Your slip is showing FRiend.

Exactly what should a teenager do when he is being followed by a stranger in a truck?

What would you tell your kids to do if they are being followed by a stranger in a truck? Go chat him up?

The kid did exactly what any responsible adult would teach him to do....get away from the stranger following you in a vehicle.

It speaks volumes that you see that as criminal behavior.

Oh, thank you for confirming that Zimmerman pursued him.

133 posted on 03/24/2012 6:41:35 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: rbmillerjr

And in the sentence after that, I explained what could have led to the bruises Zimmerman received. None of the eyewitnesses place the kid on him throwing punches down. The eyewitness accounts based on the calls show Zimmerman on the black guy, who is face down.


134 posted on 03/24/2012 6:47:22 AM PDT by bguyj2012
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To: rbmillerjr

There is nothing to suggest that Zimmerman announced he was part of a Neighborhood Watch program. The tapes alone suggest that he was already in an aggressive, frustrated state of mind by the time he exited the car.

Picture this: It is 6:30 pm, some guy, not wearing a cop uniform or badge, just starts tailing you in a car, you have no idea who this person is and what they’re up to. Could be a kidnapper or a gangster or drug pusher for all you know. You’re 17, so not much rational thought going on.

Out of fear, you start speeding up. According to Trayvon’s girlfriend, he initially did not run, he just walked fast. By the time Zimmerman got to him, he was only 70 or so yards from his father’s house.

How is moving to escape some unknown danger running like a criminal? Oh, I guess because the person running is black? Right? smh


135 posted on 03/24/2012 6:47:27 AM PDT by bguyj2012
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To: bguyj2012; Norm Lenhart; TheOldLady; 50mm; darkwing104

Everything you write is a lie, assumption, speculation or sheer nonsense.

You are a troll and why you haven’t been banned yet I have no idea.

When a noob goes around slinging accusations of “Racist” at longtime freepers and then takes the side of the likes of Al Sharpton and 0bastard, it rings a few alarm bells.

Your pathetic posting history is clear.


137 posted on 03/24/2012 8:22:24 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: PhilDragoo

Wow, where did you get that? Where are these pictures on the national and local Florida media?!!


138 posted on 03/24/2012 8:24:07 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Zimmerman immediately acknowledged that he "shot and killed" Martin. That is not in dispute. Whether the shooting was a crime or not, is the whole issue, and very much in dispute.
139 posted on 03/24/2012 8:31:25 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: NoLibZone
?? He doesn't look very white to me. Not sure though why you think it would matter.
140 posted on 03/24/2012 8:33:53 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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