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To: marktwain

From reading the reports and listening to the 911 calls this is basically what happened.

Mr. Zimmerman was coming back or heading out to do so errands when he sees a suspicious Black guy walking in his gated community. There had been some recent burglaries in the community or in a neighborhood very close by so Mr. Zimmerman thought the suspicious Black guy might be one of them. Mr. Zimmerman follows him a bit and Trayvon notices and doesn’t like it and stares at Mr. Zimmerman. Trayvon then starts walking and Mr. Zimmerman gets out and follows him by foot. All this time Mr. Zimmerman is on the phone to 911 reporting what he is seeing.

Trayvon starts running and Mr. Zimmerman loses sight of him. Mr. Zimmerman ends his call with 911. At this point Mr. Zimmerman walks back to his truck but is jumped by Trayvon. Trayvon is on top of him beating the crap out of Mr. Zimmerman while Mr. Zimmerman is yelling help as loud as he can. On one of the 911 calls you can hear him yelling over and over. No one in the neighborhood goes to help Mr. Zimmerman because they are all too scared to do so.

Mr. Zimmerman realizes no one is coming to help so he does what he has to do to protect his life which is to pull his gun. He fires on round which turns out to be fatal and Trayvon dies. Cops show up shortly and secure the scene and process it.


20 posted on 03/22/2012 7:21:10 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
So many opinions and assumptions, I don't know where to start.

a suspicious Black guy

Suspicious to whom? What made him suspicious? Oh, he was carrying a bag of chips and a bottle of iced tea.

Enough for now.

22 posted on 03/22/2012 7:25:20 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
LOL, time line, but a good fabrication anyway.
25 posted on 03/22/2012 7:40:00 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Jack Hydrazine

>>Trayvon starts running and Mr. Zimmerman loses sight of him. Mr. Zimmerman ends his call with 911. At this point Mr. Zimmerman walks back to his truck but is jumped by Trayvon. Trayvon is on top of him beating the crap out of Mr. Zimmerman while Mr. Zimmerman is yelling help as loud as he can. On one of the 911 calls you can hear him yelling over and over. No one in the neighborhood goes to help Mr. Zimmerman because they are all too scared to do so.

>>Mr. Zimmerman realizes no one is coming to help so he does what he has to do to protect his life which is to pull his gun. He fires on round which turns out to be fatal and Trayvon dies. Cops show up shortly and secure the scene and process it.

Yeah, I heard the tapes and it doesn’t seem like Travon is innocent at all. You have a neighborhood watch guy, trying to do his job, screaming HELP audibly in several 911 tapes, and then a gunshot. I don’t see how or why this is racism. I also don’t see why baby pictures represent the actions of a 17 year old.


26 posted on 03/22/2012 7:43:40 PM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
At this point Mr. Zimmerman walks back to his truck but is jumped by Trayvon.

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Please provide source of your statement.

38 posted on 03/22/2012 8:01:07 PM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

In Zimmerman’s first description he says “he might be black,” then, as it seems Trevon was getting closer to him, he said ‘he’s black.’ This didn’t begin with Zimmerman knowing the person who, in his estimation, was acting strangely was black; it was only a suspicion from what he could see initially, apparently from some distance. The killing may be a crime or not, I don’t know and am not about to judge, but it doesn’t sound racially motivated.


72 posted on 03/22/2012 8:50:17 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Trayvon starts running and Mr. Zimmerman loses sight of him. Mr. Zimmerman ends his call with 911. At this point Mr. Zimmerman walks back to his truck but is jumped by Trayvon.

Slight problem with your ambush theory: Martin was on the phone with his girlfriend while this was going on. According to this article:

Martin, who was in town from Miami to visit his father in Sanford, told the girl on his way back from the store he'd taken shelter from the rain briefly at an apartment building in his father's gated community, [Martin family Attorney Ben] Crump said. Martin then told the girl he was being followed and would try to lose the person.

"She says: 'Run.' He says, 'I'm not going to run, I'm just going to walk fast,' " Crump said, quoting the girl.

After Martin encountered Zimmerman, the girl thinks she heard a scuffle "because his voice changes like something interrupted his speech," Crump said. The phone call ended before the girl heard gunshots.

The call ended at 7:12 pm, and the cops arrived at 7:17.

If Zimmerman laid a hand on the kid first, he's guilty. If the kid kept on walking, and Zimmerman tried to restrain him, he's guilty. On the other hand, if Zimmerman politely asked what he was doing, and Martin jumped him, then maybe he's not guilty.

118 posted on 03/22/2012 9:55:47 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Sounds like a good defense. Probably even be true.
Doesn’t matter, though. He’s the only eye witness to how and when the fight started.
Lets just hope the courts don’t bankrupt him or unjustly jail him to please the racist elements of the black population.


150 posted on 03/23/2012 8:25:23 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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