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GOP rule could sink Gingrich, Paul at contested convention [Reince Preibus notes its importance]
CBS News ^ | March 21, 2012 | Brian Montopoli

Posted on 03/21/2012 12:18:31 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Newt Gingrich and Ron Paul's slim hopes of winning the Republican presidential nomination depend primarily on their ability to triumph at a contested convention in August. The idea is that if front-runner Mitt Romney falls short of the 1,144 delegates he needs to secure the nomination outright before the convention, his rivals will seize the opportunity to win over the Republican faithful during the convention process.

That long-shot strategy depends on Gingrich and Paul actually getting on the convention ballot. And it now appears that may be a problem. The Atlanta-Journal Constitution has noticed a little-known rule - No. 40(b), to be exact - that would seem to keep the two candidates from being able to participate in a floor fight.

The rule was adopted in 2008, and here's what it says: "Each candidate for nomination for President of the United States and Vice President of the United States shall demonstrate the support of a plurality of the delegates from each of five (5) or more states, severally, prior to the presentation of the name of that candidate for nomination."

[SNIP]

It's possible that even if Gingrich or Paul's delegates can't vote for their candidate on the first ballot, they could do so on subsequent ballots if Gingrich and/or Paul garners the support of a plurality of delegates from at least five states during the fight on the convention floor. Under Republican National Committee rules, Gingrich or Paul would need to be formally nominated after the first ballot for this to happen, and demonstrate their support in five states when this happens. It's an extremely unlikely scenario, though technically possible......

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: brokeredconvention; convention; gope; gopprimary; newt2012
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I read yesterday that after the 1st vote, it's expected that state delegates will fall in line and vote for their state GOP leadership's nominee choice.
1 posted on 03/21/2012 12:18:44 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The fix is in, and has been since 2008.


2 posted on 03/21/2012 12:24:23 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler
The fix is in, and has been since 2008

You've got that exactly right. This whole ridiculous process is just a goon show for the rubes.

3 posted on 03/21/2012 12:28:07 PM PDT by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: Timber Rattler

What’s been “vetted” this primary, is that the GOP Establishment has manipulated the process so much so, that the base is not given a voice in the selection of their nominee.

It is disgusting.


4 posted on 03/21/2012 12:30:52 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yes, this is true. And provides all the more reason why we must solidy secure the anti-Romney vote in the remaining states. It is now confirmed by PPP and other exit polling data that between 48%-57% of the Gingrich vote would go to Santorum. Gingrich’s campaign is in the red, he’s registering record (60%) negatives among women according to a new ABC-Washington Post poll, and his support even among men is declining, his southern strategy has been reduced to ashes, he was seen strolling in zoos and parks during key primary contests, so he really has no legitimate purpose to continue in this race. Even ostriches with their heads buried in the sand occasinally raise their eyes to the sky to get a glimpse of reality. That time has come although it may be a bit too late in the game. Romney triumphed decisively in IL winning major demographics and for all intents and the purpose the Fat Lady now sings. We cannot act like inmates in a mental ward and continue to be in perpetual denial.


5 posted on 03/21/2012 12:31:16 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Jim Noble

Hah! The TV and other media are laughing all the way to the bank. Nothing but a money stream for media with ads.


6 posted on 03/21/2012 12:32:24 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: Steelfish

Congrats on most moronic post of the decade!


7 posted on 03/21/2012 12:34:28 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Rick Santorum voted against Right toWork)
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To: Steelfish

I will continue to support Gingrich.

Since my vote is mine, I choose to give it to the person who has earned it.


8 posted on 03/21/2012 12:36:14 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What was the rule before 2008?? Anyone remember??


9 posted on 03/21/2012 12:37:18 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Steelfish
Yes, this is true. And provides all the more reason why we must solidy secure the anti-Romney vote in the remaining states. It is now confirmed by PPP and other exit polling data that between 48%-57% of the Gingrich vote would go to Santorum. Gingrich’s campaign is in the red, he’s registering record (60%) negatives among women according to a new ABC-Washington Post poll, and his support even among men is declining, his southern strategy has been reduced to ashes, he was seen strolling in zoos and parks during key primary contests, so he really has no legitimate purpose to continue in this race. Even ostriches with their heads buried in the sand occasinally raise their eyes to the sky to get a glimpse of reality. That time has come although it may be a bit too late in the game. Romney triumphed decisively in IL winning major demographics and for all intents and the purpose the Fat Lady now sings. We cannot act like inmates in a mental ward and continue to be in perpetual denial.

Your post has one major flaw.

He is already getting pressure from the GOP-E, Beck, and others to drop out now

Newt needs to stay in the race until the end to keep Santorum honest. There is no garauntee that Santorum will stay in the race to the end.
10 posted on 03/21/2012 12:38:41 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Rome2000

Coming from the brain dead that’s quite a compliment.


11 posted on 03/21/2012 12:40:15 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

I heard Rove last night saying Gingrich has no business strolling through zoos during the campaigns. Wow! I guess you heard it too!


12 posted on 03/21/2012 12:42:07 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather ("We Need To Teach The Establishment a Lesson" - Newt Gingrich)
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To: Steelfish
One more thing you pompous popsicle, Fox News Exit polls last night had Newt Gingich on top of the poll, in answer to the question, "Putting aside who you're voting for, choose (one) the candidate you believe has the best policies?"
13 posted on 03/21/2012 12:42:17 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Wow. These little critters seem to have been hard at this for some time. I never remember it being some so difficult to get on ballots before either. That Virginia thing. Why don’t the Bushes just email us with the nomination next time and save us the drama of pretending like we’re involved in this thing. Thanks Rinse and Repeat.


14 posted on 03/21/2012 12:42:51 PM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I thought the rule was 2, not 5.

In any case, Ron Paul thought he had a chance in the caucus states, such as Maine.

And, Newt thought he had a chance with a Southern strategy, but Mitt kicked his butt in Florida, and then Rick kicked his butt first in Oklahoma and Tennessee, and then in Alabama and Mississippi. Rick looks like he will win in Louisiana this weekend. Where does this leave Newt?

If these fellows Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich cannot be nominated, I think it’s logical to presume their delegates will tend to gravitate, Paul’s to Romney and Gingrich’s to Santorum, although who really knows.

Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich are probably thinking , right now, about using their delegates to be the person who puts Mitt Romney over the top. To be the kingmaker, as it were.

I don’t think Newt would be a bad choice for Vice President. It would actually help, I think, for the media to jump all over Newt, they way they jumped all over Sarah Palin. Newt can handle it, just as Sarah did. But, if Newt waits until June 5, it’s possible Mitt will be the presumptive nominee and ticket to ride will expire.

Ron Paul is thinking, if he’s thinking, of the Constitution. Could Mitt agree to end the Fed, meaning, to support the idea, since Congress would have to pass the bill? Is there anything else on which a deal might be made with him?

If the number were still 2, Newt would already qualify, and Ron Paul might, depending on the actual outcome of the delegate selection process in Maine, Missouri and maybe a couple other states. But, 5, I don’t think either of them has a chance at 5.


15 posted on 03/21/2012 12:43:53 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
you pompous popsicle

apt and humorous. :)

Newt was at 20% in the national PPP poll today. He is making ground, but I think we need to find ways to take him to the people outside the GOP, too many are hoodwinked already or blind and will not see...

"Best policies" has to be able to be translated into votes and support...

16 posted on 03/21/2012 12:47:39 PM PDT by true believer forever (If Newt is good enough for Sarah, he's good enough for me!)
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To: elpadre
I guess there wasn't a rule so they put it in to avoid any problems with candidates racking up delegates (and challenging THEIR selection) in this proportional system they'd devised.

PDF of 2008 RULES Adopted Sept 1, 2008 at the Republican National Convention [49 pages]

17 posted on 03/21/2012 12:48:09 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Redmen4ever
In any case, Ron Paul thought he had a chance in the caucus states, such as Maine......

The article gives more detail on Paul (I had to edit for length).

Per Jesse Benton (Paul's campaign chairman): "we are well positioned to carry WA, MN, AK, ND and ME among several others."

18 posted on 03/21/2012 12:51:26 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: SoConPubbie; Steelfish

I don’t understand why people are still pushing for Newt to drop out. That is the surest way Romney gets to 1144. If Newt were to drop out about half his support goes to Rick and half to Romney. A draw.


19 posted on 03/21/2012 12:52:11 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: SoConPubbie; Steelfish

I don’t understand why people are still pushing for Newt to drop out. That is the surest way Romney gets to 1144. If Newt were to drop out about half his support goes to Rick and half to Romney. A draw.


20 posted on 03/21/2012 12:52:52 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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