and it's about time we had one!
The fix is in, and has been since 2008.
Yes, this is true. And provides all the more reason why we must solidy secure the anti-Romney vote in the remaining states. It is now confirmed by PPP and other exit polling data that between 48%-57% of the Gingrich vote would go to Santorum. Gingrich’s campaign is in the red, he’s registering record (60%) negatives among women according to a new ABC-Washington Post poll, and his support even among men is declining, his southern strategy has been reduced to ashes, he was seen strolling in zoos and parks during key primary contests, so he really has no legitimate purpose to continue in this race. Even ostriches with their heads buried in the sand occasinally raise their eyes to the sky to get a glimpse of reality. That time has come although it may be a bit too late in the game. Romney triumphed decisively in IL winning major demographics and for all intents and the purpose the Fat Lady now sings. We cannot act like inmates in a mental ward and continue to be in perpetual denial.
What was the rule before 2008?? Anyone remember??
Wow. These little critters seem to have been hard at this for some time. I never remember it being some so difficult to get on ballots before either. That Virginia thing. Why don’t the Bushes just email us with the nomination next time and save us the drama of pretending like we’re involved in this thing. Thanks Rinse and Repeat.
I thought the rule was 2, not 5.
In any case, Ron Paul thought he had a chance in the caucus states, such as Maine.
And, Newt thought he had a chance with a Southern strategy, but Mitt kicked his butt in Florida, and then Rick kicked his butt first in Oklahoma and Tennessee, and then in Alabama and Mississippi. Rick looks like he will win in Louisiana this weekend. Where does this leave Newt?
If these fellows Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich cannot be nominated, I think it’s logical to presume their delegates will tend to gravitate, Paul’s to Romney and Gingrich’s to Santorum, although who really knows.
Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich are probably thinking , right now, about using their delegates to be the person who puts Mitt Romney over the top. To be the kingmaker, as it were.
I don’t think Newt would be a bad choice for Vice President. It would actually help, I think, for the media to jump all over Newt, they way they jumped all over Sarah Palin. Newt can handle it, just as Sarah did. But, if Newt waits until June 5, it’s possible Mitt will be the presumptive nominee and ticket to ride will expire.
Ron Paul is thinking, if he’s thinking, of the Constitution. Could Mitt agree to end the Fed, meaning, to support the idea, since Congress would have to pass the bill? Is there anything else on which a deal might be made with him?
If the number were still 2, Newt would already qualify, and Ron Paul might, depending on the actual outcome of the delegate selection process in Maine, Missouri and maybe a couple other states. But, 5, I don’t think either of them has a chance at 5.
and it's about time we had one!
They pulled this rule out of where exactly?
I’m not so sure. Remember that all that needs to happen for a contested convention is to deny a first ballot victory to anyone. This releases up *all* the delegates.
From there, it turns into a free for all, with the five state rule just preventing the convention from turning into a favorite son slug fest. This means that any and all candidates will have to make “backroom” deals to make the five state minimum, to show that they have a functioning bloc big enough to matter.
Then anyone and everyone who can muster five states, a theoretical 10 candidates, but practically only two or three, will go up for the second ballot. And this is when it gets interesting.
That is, the second ballot will still likely be just Romney, Santorum, and Gingrich. But that will just confirm the stalemate, so new candidates will have to come forth.
One more reason to expect that this is the last national election for Republicans. It is high time Conservatives stop hoping for them to change things in any meaningful way.
Boehner is a crybaby, McConnell is a whiner; heck, even Ryan’s hated budget would run trillion dollar deficits as far as the eye can see. The Tea Party candidates we fought to elect have been mostly ineffective, if not openly hostile to those that got them elected in the first place.
The GOP is nothing but another wing of the BOHICA Party that makes deals that are meant to put on a show, much like wrestling. And the outcome is just as preordained.
A lot of states have the rule that on the second ballot of the National Convention, the State Chairman gets to cast the votes as he thinks best.
And some of those states say that on the THIRD ballot, the individual delegates can vote for a ham sandwich, if that's what they think is best.
i am certain that this rule can be changed by majority vote at the convention. So if MITT has the majority ... the issue is moot anyway.
They wanted to stop ronPaul from seconding his own nomination and giving a convention speech. Treachery.
What we are learning is that it takes four years to prepare to win the party’s nomination. It takes time to build a ground team in each state, to get on each state’s ballot, and to line up those important wealthy donors to have the cash to advertise.
Four years. If we don’t win in 2012, a credible conservative candidate must start immediately for the 2016 run.