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To: Nervous Tick
Nice ad hominem to avoid the point -- the point is that anyone who will turn over this information about themselves, for any reason short of a legal court order, is not someone who would make a trustworthy employee.

Even a dishwasher might be convinced to leave a door unlocked... you know, if he really needs the money.

In the corporate world, it's someone sending private company info in an emial to a buddy (or on Facebook) because they either don't realize what a breach they're making, or they simply don't care (or, they're doing it "just once" in exchange for a favor). As the business owner, the net effect is the same to me -- someone is leaking my confidential information. So to avoid that, I am not going to hire someone who has shown me that they will do so if they think the circumstances warrant.

This isn't dogma, it's not vacuous, and it's not ego-stroking -- it's basic security and common sense. Hey, if you want to hire someone who has no clue about how say to say "no" in order to keep confidential things confidential, that's your (soon to be extinct) business.

148 posted on 03/20/2012 10:30:55 AM PDT by kevkrom (Note to self: proofread, then post. It's better that way.)
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To: kevkrom

>> the point is that anyone who will turn over this information about themselves, for any reason short of a legal court order, is not someone who would make a trustworthy employee.

Huh? This is what I mean by “your dogma is loopy”. (And it IS dogmatic and egotistical to say “I” [the great kevkrom] deem you unemployable for any reason. That’s not ad hominem; it’s a conclusion based on observed evidence.)

The key concept isn’t the damn password, it’s the information on the page. I give you the password to my account because you demand it as a condition of employment for a position I feel I must try to obtain. As soon as I’m out of your presence I change the password. So what? I don’t care how loudly you and your sycophants here twitter that this proves I can’t be trusted. That’s bunk.

Now, let’s set the scene. I am flat broke. Haven’t eaten for days. My beloved Mrs. Tick is ill, resting as best she can in our barely running car outside the restaurant because we have no home. I’m not applying for Vice President In Charge Of Dogma, I’m applying for dishwasher. The interviewer requires of me my facebook password. I wince inside, not really wanting to give it up... but I REALLY NEED THIS JOB. I’ll change the password at the library after I leave.

And you insist it’s not high-handed in such a scenario to sniff disdainfully and proclaim that I am unfit to wash dishes or hold ANY job because I answered the interviewer’s demands?

Well, I think your position is not only high-handed but also absurd — and I’m calling you out on it.


156 posted on 03/20/2012 10:52:27 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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