Postman: Ayers family put 'foreigner' Obama through school

WND ^ | 3-19-12 | Jerome Corsi

[STARWISE]

Allen Hulton

*snip*

A retired U.S. Postal Service carrier who delivered mail to Tom and Mary Ayers in a Chicago suburb in the late 1980s and early 1990s and claims to have met Obama in front of the Ayers home emphatically says yes to all three questions.

Allen Hulton, who was commended for 39 years of honorable service with the USPS, has given a sworn affidavit to investigators commissioned by Maricopa County, Ariz., Sheriff Joe Arpaio to determine whether Obama is eligible for Arizona’s 2012 election ballot. Hulton has recorded about three hours of video interviews with WND.

Hulton says that in conversations with Mary Ayers while on his route he learned of the couple’s enthusiasm and support for a black foreign student. One bright, warm Chicagoland day, he recounts, he met the student who fit Mary Ayers’ description in front of the Ayers home in Glen Ellyn, Ill. That young man, Hulton is convinced, was Barack Obama.

[Brown Deer]

Actually, nothing about his birth has never been substantiated either, has it? It’s just a common myth.

[edge919]

(1)If one is indeed a Natural Born Citizen, adoption cannot remove that status, period. Indeed, adoption cannot remove any kind of American citizenship, because it can always be reclaimed at majority.

This simply isn't true. Adoption CAN remove U.S. citizen. It's why the State Department warns about adoption to non-Hague convention countries ... because they cannot protects the citizenship of outbound adoptions. Further, the Supreme Court has on several occasions that the citizenship of the child naturally follows the condition of the father. Per the divorce records, Lolo Soetoro was still Obama's legal father up till 1980, when Obama reached majority. Unless Obama naturalized at some point, he was naturally an Indonesian citizen.

[Dajjal]

obumpa

[Danae]

That story is about to go big.

[cynwoody]

Obama did not have a scholarship arranged by Grampa’s boss. Where did you get this information?

OK. So how about you tell us how he got into the school and how his tuition got paid?

David Mendell claims in his book, Obama: From Promise to Power, that Gramps's boss, who was an alumnus, got him into Punahou. Another source claims the connection was Frank Manaut, who was the president of the bank at which his grandmother was a VP and a trustee of Punahou. Of course, there is no reason both individuals could not have been involved. It has also been widely reported that Punahou extended financial aid to permit Obama to attend.

Obama was a heavy drug user at Punahou and an indifferent student. Obama’s grades and student record from Punahou have NEVER been released. Any assumption about Obama’s ability to get into any school because of his record at Punahou is nothing but idle speculation.

How would we know, if his grades are not available? My guess is, he went to Occidental because his grades and test scores were mediocre. But that's only a guess. A Punahou kid with good grades and scores should have been Harvard material.

There is no record of Obama ever having attended Columbia University. None of the other Political Science majors at the time recall ever meeting him or even seeing him in any of their classes. No other students recall ever seeing him in the library or on campus. He was in NYC the same time Ayers and Dohrn were. They lived near each other.

Standard birther garbage. For instance, Michael Baron, who was one of his teachers at Columbia, remembers giving him an A for a paper on nuclear arms reduction. As for Ayers and Dohrn, his connecting with them in NYC makes it more likely, not less, that he did indeed go to Columbia.

Obama’s stories about having a job on Wall Street has been shown to be untrue.

Link? You would need to prove he never worked at Business International. But you can't. Why would it matter, one way other?

You really should try to learn a little about the false narrative of Obama’s life that is pushed by the MSM.

It's obvious that I am much better at sorting truth from fiction than you.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks STARWISE.

[STARWISE]

The layers .. unending .. hopefully stripped
completely away in our lifetimes .. ;)

[zipper]

Maybe you misunderstood, FRiend — in my post #37 I’m not talking about the book I’m talking about Cashill’s FictionFixer analysis. Read the conclusion at the end of the PDF FictionFixer document at the link I provided. It’s not conclusive according to FictionFixer, but there’s a strong probability (high 60’s triggers on most tests). The exact words: “makes a strong case for the likelihood that the author ghostwrote Dreams...” The document length was preferred to be about 100,000 words but they don’t have anything from Ayers that is that long. They only had Prairie Fire which is 25,344 words.

Overall you are convinced, I am convinced, Jack Cashill is convinced, but the best analysis really needs a longer Ayers document. The correlation can’t be 100 percent.

I won’t exaggerate or lie about it to anyone, that’s what the other side does.

Meanwhile Breitbart and Sheriff Joe are continuing to connect more dots for us....

[Brown Deer]

It's obvious that I am much better at sorting truth from fiction than you.

obvious to you? You certainly didn't sort out any truth in your Punahou claims, or anything else in that BS of yours.

[cricket]

Question often asked; but still we seem not to know just 'who' it was that first 'tapped' Obama to be President and when. Someone in the bed of communist politics in Chicago? Black Panther associations/friends of Ayers? All the above; or even earlier. . .Middle Eastern hands on his shoulders as well?

Am wondering 'why' a President or a Candidate would have right of NOT showing birth certificate info? Private citizen 'one thing'. Man in Oval Office; quite another.

We have heard several stories where he speaks of 'knowing' apparently; his task 'at hand'. (Certainly explains Obama's 'messianic proclivities' and imagination).

[He looked right at me and told me he was going to be president of the United States,” Hulton says. “There was a little bit of a grin on his face when he said it – he sounded sure of himself, but not arrogant. I know how people will say things because they have an ambition, but it did not come across that way,” Hulton says. “It came across as if this young black male was telling me he was going to be president, almost as if it were the statement of a scientific fact that had already been determined, as if his being president had been already pre-arranged.”]

[TigersEye]

The claim that Obama got into Occidental as a foreign student (presumably Indonesian) is a common birther myth. It has never been substantiated.

Who has ever claimed it? You keep trolling threads and posting that to those who ask for the records but that's a psyop technique not an honest question.

[cricket]

More 'retreading'; but with a fresh look. Seems a lot of folks are into 'vetting' Obama; first time; or repeat from last campaign. In any event; more misst=ing pieces being shaken out. Perhaps Free Repub should have it's own Obama 'vetting' section/thread. Would make keeping up with Obama's MIA history; a good bit easier.

(Do not have time to post this; but link re further discovery and 'second look' at Ayers' authoring Obama's memoirs.) http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/12/is_gallmanns_memoir_the_source_for_obamas.html

link

[cynwoody]

Who has ever claimed it?

OK, OK. I agree it's false. No sane person would ever entertain such nonsense. Duh!

Stipulated that Obama was a red-blooded, natural born American who went to a hoity-toity prep school and a liberal California college before finding his identity at Columbia, toying with organizing the Community (of which he manifestly was never a part), and making a name for himself at Hahvard Law (evidently with help from Bill Ayers and his parents), which lead to a highly profitable ghost-write and a political career rocketing to the White House, all totally legitimately by way of the Sheeple's stupidity, abetted by the MSM.

You keep trolling threads and posting that to those who ask for the records but that's a psyop technique not an honest question.

As far as I can recall, I haven't previously bothered with this dark corner of birther drivel. But I'm glad y'all agree that the allegation he attended Occidental as a foreign student is manifestly false! Progress is progress. One falsehood at a time ...

[TigersEye]

OK, OK. I agree it's false. No sane person would ever entertain such nonsense. Duh!

There you go mischaracterizing what I said again. Classic troll behavior.

As far as I can recall, I haven't previously bothered with this dark corner of birther drivel. But I'm glad y'all agree that the allegation he attended Occidental as a foreign student is manifestly false! Progress is progress. One falsehood at a time ...

No one said he was. Twisting people's words to fit your agenda is disingenuous. Fundamentally dishonest. There is no other purpose for that other than to disrupt and mislead and since you want to mislead those who are looking for answers about our communist president you must be working for a Progressive agenda.

[drpix]

I'm with you cynwoody. Sorting fact from fiction in Obama's biography is indeed harder work than dealing with only the problem of Obama's birth, Selective Service and Social Security records.

But, since the government agencies of the US and Hawaii (that serve as the legal authority on the authenticity of the original documents) and the courts (that should serve to force the cooperation of those agencies) have all been compromised - it is Obama's biography that must be the target for truth loving patriots in these few month remaining before the November election.

Here's the link to the NY Times article that the blogger DENKO mentions, but does not link, in his post revealing the truth of the times he and Obama worked at Business International.

"Obama’s Account of New York Years Often Differs From What Others Say" (NY-Times 10/30/07)

It not only identifies DENKO (Dan Armstrong) and quotes him, but identifies and quotes others who worked at that company at that time. The article also identifies and quotes people who knew Obama during his Columbia years.

If the governmental agencies and courts will not address the problem of his vital records to expose Obama, only the testimony of other Americans, who knew him can expose him.

[drpix]

"The claim that Obama got into Occidental as a foreign student (presumably Indonesian) is a common birther myth. It has never been substantiated."

True, but what has been substantiated is that he had foreign students (Muslim Pakistanis) as roommates both at Occidental and at Columbia. See my link in POST-175 for Columbia roommate "Sadik" and below link for Occidental roommate "Hasan":

"Obama Espoused Radical Views in College" (Newsmax - 2/8/100)

Excerpt:

Dr. John C. Drew, a grant writing consultant in Laguna Niguel, Calif., tells Newsmax he met Obama in 1980 when Obama was a sophomore at Occidental College in Los Angeles. Drew had just graduated from Occidental and was attending graduate school at Cornell University.

Drew’s then girlfriend, Caroline Boss — now Grauman-Boss — knew Obama because she shared classes with him at Occidental.

During Christmas break, Drew says he was at Grauman-Boss’ home in Palo Alto when Obama came over with Mohammed Hasan Chandoo, his roommate from Pakistan.

“Barack and Hasan showed up at the house in a BMW, and then we went to a restaurant together,” Drew says. “We had a nice meal, and then we came back to the house and smoked cigarettes and drank and argued politics.”

AND the claim that "Obama DID NOT attend Occidental/Columbia as a foreign student" is also NOT SUBSTANTIATED (to my knowledge). If any of you have substantiation of this post the link or source.

[cuban leaf]

In other news, Hitler was Austrian.

[detective]

Obama’s legal team has gone to great effort and expense to seal ALL Obama’s academic records. I am amazed that you are ignorant of that fact. Obama’s stooges in the MSM then write false accounts of Obama’s education which can't be verified. We know Obama NEVER graduated with honors or was on any list of students with a GPA of over 3.0 or 3.3 or whatever the threshold was.

At Business International Obama was essentially a file clerk copying and collating articles. It was not a high level Wall Street job as Obama claimed in Dreams From My Father.

400 people who were Political Science students at Columbia when Obama was supposedly a Political Science major were contacted. NOT A SINGLE ONE remembers Obama. The reports from Obama stooges that he supposedly was at a certain school can't be verified because all the records have been sealed by Obama.

Why is that so difficult for you to understand?

http://www.libertythink.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3822

http://www.eduinreview.com/blog/2008/10/barack-obamas-gpa-and-college-records/

Obama says he first met Ayers at a fund raiser in 1996. This has been shown to be a lie.

Almost all versions of Obama’s life have proved to be lies but some have yet to be proved because Obama has sealed all records of his life.

[detective]

When some employees accessed some of Obama’s student loan records out of curiosity Obama’s attorney's immediately prosecuted them and threatened them with prison time. No honest, objective person has access to Obama’s records.

http://www.startribune.com/politics/94736024.html

[PGalt]

Thanks for the pings to the thread. Thanks for the post/research, maggief. Fascinating. Lots of great posts/links/research in a tremendous thread. Thanks to all truthseekers.

BTTT!