Instructions to murder us by any means available.
To enslave our women and children.
“...may carry the death penalty...”
That’ll never stand.
First Line: Staff Sgt. Robert Bales, the Army soldier who is set to be charged in the mass murder
While I have no doubt there will be charges, the title is a bit misleading. I am not a JAG officer, but I believe there is a little technicality known as an Article 32 hearing. Here is why it matters:
No charge or specification may be referred to a general court-martial for trial until a through and impartial investigation of all the matters set forth therein has been made. This investigation shall include inquiry as to the truth of the matter set forth in the charges, consideration of the form of charges, and recommendation as to the disposition which should be made of the case in the interest of justice and discipline.IOW, no charges until an Article 32 has been conducted. The Article 32 will no doubt take weeks.
Where are troops getting alcohol in Afcrapistan? I thought General Order one banned alcohol? They ain't gettin’ it at the PX.
Will there be any recourse if this case if tied up with a bow before Hasan gets his court martial. Such a miscarriage of justice if Bales has a decision before Hasan.
I'd love to send this SOB out on a combat deployment. We'll see how long his high-mindedness lasts when he must face reality.
The death penalty?
That's fair enough ,but I don't remember death penalty talk from the Obama administration when Major Hassan murdered about 15 fellow US soldiers at Ft. Hood. -tom
He was only imitating their culture.
Are the scientists playing around with undisclosed LSD administrations again, or are they testing something new?
This John Henry Browne is a high priced high flying lawyer. How is he getting paid? Does the military allow a defendant to choose a civilian attorney and then pick up the tab? I don’t imagine an E-6 could come up with the fees this guy charges. Any one have any idea how this works in the military?
...stabbed and set ablaze too? This is the first time I’ve seen that.
Bet he sees a GCM befor Maj Hassan, the FT Hood Killer..any bets?
So this unfortunate man will be put on trial, while the true traitors to America are running the country. Go figure.
So this unfortunate man will be put on trial, while the true traitors to America are running the country. Go figure.
Fact: A terrible civilian massacre in Afghanistan, a nation we liberated, has occurred. No evidence exists to the contrary.
Fact: This was not an islamist extremist gathering, nor a nest of armed Taliban or AQ terrorists or their sympathizers. No evidence exists to the contrary.
Fact: This was not an official US government operation. No evidence exists to the contrary.
Fact: This was an act of mass murder against civilians, some as young as 2 or 3 years old, who were shot in the head and then had bodies partially set aflame. (I have seen some of the uncensored photographs). No evidence exists to the contrary.
Fact: This is an act or series of acts not representative of the United States of America, nor of the millions of fine young men and women who serve with honor in our US armed forces in the Afghan and other fields. I think of many a young soldier bringing a frisbee or football to an Afghan village and establishing rapport with little Afghan kids and building trust with these kids and villagers and becoming big heroes in their eyes, and then somebody else in the military destroying these efforts of goodwill right overnight in a flash, ending in the garrisoning of US troops in Afghanistan and positioning every Westerner in that country in considerable danger.
Fact: It cannot be rationalized anymore you can rationalize a guy not in uniform going into a stateside Denny's because of personal emotional problems and him just killing everyone in sight (this happened in San Diego, at Luby's in Texas and elsewhere). Someone should have been able to "double tap" the assailant on the spot and take him out. If captured alive, 95% of FR would call for the electrocution or lethal injection of such a mass murderer stateside. And there would be champagne toasts on this site at the moment of the Governor of the state announced the sentence was carried out.
Fact: Whomever is found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt of these crimes in those Afghan villages, and all legal appeals are exhausted, particularly if the convicted criminal is found to not be insane AND had engaged in some kind of advance planning, then I would say, this person does not represent the USA and should indeed be given the maximum penalty under law: Death.
Fact: The man or persons who did these things, are no heroes.
The policy of straining our military with such foolish multiple deployments to no-win war theatres is also worth of due review and reflection.
However, we are a nation of responsibility, of good, of justice, of Christianity, and the person who did these things will likely have to pay the price with his own life. If that happens, there will be justice in my book.
If however we believe this doesnt amount to anything, then we have no more business being in foreign countries as a nation with a deployed military and I would say it is morally unsustainable and time to bring them all back. (I know from the three black servicemembers fresh in from "da hood", 2 Marines, one Navy seaman) guilty of violently gang-raping an innocent, small 12-year old Okinawan girl--who probably has since committed seppuku, (with duct tape and condoms purchased in advance with a rental car for the act also rented with that purpose--and later one of these men release killed his girlfriend before committing suicide, still incorrigible after 7 years in a Japanese prison) that just putting on a military uniform of the finest, most compassionate and upstanding, exceptional nation on the face of the earth does not automaticaly make any one of us an instant saint, above reproach no question. (If anything, the sacred uniform of our Armed Forces adds even more accountability and responsibility to our deeds, as protected and defender of the weak, defenseless and liberated. "We are, after all" as President Reagan would say, "AMERICANS".).
And a final word: Yes, the DEATH PENALTY for Islamist Enemy Combatant and Traitor Nidal Hassan if found guilty of the Ft. Hood jihad massacres. First that trial should be concluded, and this this Afghan Massacre trial concluded, in that order)
Rule 303 (5.56) applies here.
What is the BIG RUSH to charge and execute this guy? Muslim Major Hassan killed many U S soldiers and others in cold blood over 3 years ago BUT to trial yet. He is drawing full pay. Living high on the hog (or whatever Muslims eat). Obama is so afraid of Crazy Uncle Karzai.