Posted on 03/18/2012 8:06:07 AM PDT by angelcindy
The Exec.Order allows the nationalization of pretty much the entire USA even in peacetime if he desires. They can, under this order, restrict civilian travel by any mode, including (probably) foot travel. They can ration food. They can restrict water usage, even from private wells. They can ration any and all drugs, including OTC and vitamins. They can collectivize farms. They can take over all energy production, including home solar units. It also allows for drafting civilians. If they have need of your skills, they can compel you to work for no compensation. All this not in a time of war, but in time of National Emergency (several EO national emergency states already in place) or even in Peacetime
(Excerpt) Read more at teapartyorg.ning.com ...
Sorry to inform you but we've been enslaved for decades. Don't think so? Look at the tax code, look at government regulations on almost every single thing we do. Buy a light bulb, regulated, toilets, regulated, phone, regulated, cars, regulated, the food we eat, regulated, the milk we drink regulated, alcohol, regulated. And the list goes on and on and on.
Don't even get me started with schools that are nothing more than indoctrination centers that condition children to believe that Big Brother is your friend, and that Mr. Policeman is there to protect you and make things safe for everybody. To teach them that government is the only solution to all of our problems
I'm thouroughly convinced that voting does NOT work anymore. We are told lie after lie by candidates who want nothing more than power over what you and I do. It's as simple as that.
The only solution? Unfortunately another civil war IMO.
I have an almost incestuous e-mail relationship with my Rep and Senator (Not McCain ) and get back responses that are totally off topic or so naive that it makes one wonder if they are even from this planet. IMHO the sell out is total!
That’s correct. Obama can sign any bill he wants, but if the Sh1t hits the fan, anyone trying to restrict me from using my well or farming my land with get a lead response.
I hope and pray you are right.
DU seems to think its a big deal:
” Ziggystrange
26. I support Obama on this, you are right but there is more.
The Clinton amendment did not accomplish what the Obama one does.
Compare them side by side, and include the Reagan version and the 1950 act.
Certain key words have been changed. This EO does give the President powers the others did not.
This EO also is all inclusive which the others were not.
This EO also gives the government the power to dictate to private businesses, issue guaranteed loans, and also ties up the banks in new and exciting ways.
Read all the versions and pay attention to any changes as they are very significant and far reaching. If Bush had done this I/We would be freaking out like never before, Obama doing this is a completely different story.
This was predicted / expected to happen after the election in November. Why he did it now is the most important question.
In actuality “National Defense” is only the premise used to enforce this order.
Read section 102 on the Clinton version, and the Obama version, the change was 1 word. That 1 word changes everything, and does change the EO to something completely different that is crafted of “need” as opposed to “Threat.
Need is a ubiquitous concept, threat is a very narrow one in comparison. That is only the second segment. Once you read the whole thing you understand the scope of it is unprecedented, and the very thing we need to neutralize the Conservative agenda, and ell the obstructionism practiced by the Republican congress.
We’ll see.
This is the move I have been waiting for, and hoping I was not imagining he would do this. I thought he would do it in December after a won second term. He must know something we don’t that allows him, or compels him to do it now.
Best
Ziggy”
“This is the same EO thats been in place since 1994 and apparently amended several times since.”
These EOs have been around for decades. Nixon signed one back in either 1970 or 1972. It does no good, though, to mention that. Some people (not you) want their Chicken Little parade.
@#46
Links to the laws being mentioned in the EO.
When I saw the story I just took a few moments to do a bit of research rather than jump to conclusions and assume a massive conspiracy was afoot.
Ed Morrissey over at Hot Air has a good review of this:
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/03/18/national-defense-resources-preparedness-executive-order-power-grab-or-update/
The original EO dealing with national defense resources preparedness was issued in 1939 (EO 8248) according to the National Archives. It has been superseded a number of times, starting in 1951 by nearly every President through Bill Clinton, and amended twice by George W. Bush.
I remember when Bush amended this very EO some on the left started wailing that he was about to end elections and setup concentration camps. Sound silly? Some on the right are doing the same thing right now.
They may have been around for decades, but this president is an evil bastard communist dictator who is attempting rather successfully to neutralize the constitution and congress, and that changes everything.
Many on FR noted this possibility when Bush started it. We could trust Bush not to go nuts with it, but its very existence imperiled us if/when someone like Obama assumed control.
If they tried to take over everything they would not have the manpower and they would have a civil war on their hands. Maybe they could do it in Europe but not here.
bttt
Congress can revoke any executive order within a certain time frame, 60 to 90 days, I think.
Can we be organized and determined enough to make congress do this?
What do you suggest to get organized? What must be done to accomplish the rescinding of this order?
Tell them that 0bama sabotaged the BP oil rig so he’d have the excuse he needed to impose nationwide moratoriums on oil drilling. That ought to get them thinking. Or maybe sending assault weapons to Mexico (Fast & Furious) so he’d have the excuse he needed to begin imposing harsh gun controls in the United States, starting with FFL’s (firearms dealers).
That was a pretty good movie, by the way.. Legend of the Dark Crystal (I think that’s the name, anyway). Technically way ahead of it’s time.
There are plenty of RINO’s and ‘nothing to worry about’ types running around this site nowadays...just ignore them.
Just wait until the Dem Convention and occupy starts the massive riots.....Obama Needs to restore order and bingo!
When are we going to say “ENOUGH!!!!!”
Don’t count on “whats his face” leaving office EVER!
If we the people don’t start protesting, we deserve what we get.
Yeah, my elected Senators (elected by the nutcases in Santa Fe and Taos) just send me garbage when I remind them of their duty to uphold the Constitution.
Is “global warming” considered a national emergency?
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