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To: Ditter
Ditter: "A “doughfaced northerner” could mean someone with a very pale complexion who works inside and doesn't get very tanned."

Here is the most complete explanation I've seen of the origins and meanings of the term "Doughface".

It was coined by Southerners as a term of disparagement to describe their Northern supporters, and may have originated as "Doe face", meaning a skittish, easily frightened female deer.
The word "Dough face" first appears around 1820.

But I like your suggestion of Northerners with pasty white, untanned faces being the opposite of Southern "rednecks"
The word "redneck" goes back even further:

"In Scotland in the 1640s, the Covenanters rejected rule by bishops, often signing manifestos using their own blood.
Some wore red cloth around their neck to signify their position, and were called rednecks by the Scottish ruling class to denote that they were the rebels in what came to be known as The Bishop's War that preceded the rise of Cromwell.[21][22]
Eventually, the term began to mean simply "Presbyterian", especially in communities along the Scottish border.
Because of the large number of Scottish immigrants in the pre-revolutionary American south, some historians have suggested that this may be the origin of the term in the United States.[23]

"Dictionaries document the earliest American citation of the term's use for Presbyterians in 1830, as 'a name bestowed upon the Presbyterians of Fayetteville [North Carolina]'. "

I like that too: "Redneck" means Presbyterian. Who knew?

;-)

145 posted on 03/31/2012 6:26:40 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK

Very interesting, thanks. But I do not go along with the “doe faced” thing. A skittish doe doesn’t show you her nervous face she shows you her rear end, with her tail in the air. The under side of the tail is white, thus they are White Tail Deer.

Have you ever made biscuits? Roll out the dough and cut it in a circle and you have a face shaped piece of dough.


146 posted on 03/31/2012 6:39:24 AM PDT by Ditter
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