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To: gardencatz
I have to laugh when people say Santorum hasn't been vetted. The most viscious elements of the left, from the lavender mafia to the pro-death cultists and radical secularists have spent 15+ years trying to destroy him and his family with the most vile attacks. In 2006, Charlie Schumer, then head of the DSSC focused the vast majority of that organization's efforts and money on Santorum making his removal from the Senate their #1 priority.

Santorum may have lost his last election due to that and a number of other factors, but he has not been personally destroyed, nor has he compromised on his core values.

Like any other candidate at this stage, it's silly to ask them for specific strategic policies or plans when they aren't privy to classified briefings and information to which the POTUS is entitled, and any candidate who does issue such specific pronouncements without access to the full information is posturing.

What is far more desireable is for a candidate to articulate clear guiding principles and demonstrate a record of abiding by them so that you can have confidence in the decisions they make once they have adequate information to make informed decisions.

If you were truly concerned about his stands on the middle east and energy, obamacare, etc. you would read the numerous issues pieces he has on his website (all well ahead of his stance on pornography), rather than glomming onto the tiny little policy paper on pornography that msnbc has chosen to place under the magnifying glass.

279 posted on 03/17/2012 1:19:44 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack
If you were truly concerned about his stands on the middle east and energy, obamacare, etc. you would read the numerous issues pieces he has on his website (all well ahead of his stance on pornography), rather than glomming onto the tiny little policy paper on pornography that msnbc has chosen to place under the magnifying glass.

THANK you, Joe!

MSNBC!

MSNBC!!

(Now the Gospel to freepers? Beam me up Scotty! :)
282 posted on 03/17/2012 1:24:00 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Except that the majority of the country didn’t know who he was in 2006. I live in OR, my concern about senators wasn’t focused on Pennsylvania. My first introduction to him was when freepers were upset that he backed Arlen Spector over Toomey. Evidently the people of PA felt that way too.

Don’t make excuses. Yes I can read his policy positions but most people expect the candidate to promote their ideas when they have the opportunity, especially to a national audience who are only paying cursory attention at this point. I’ve read articles here about all the candidates and watched most of the debates. When the press tried to suck Newt into the whole slut controversy he put them in their place and talked about HIS agenda.

For the record, I didn’t know all that much about Newt until he ran. I knew about the contract with America, of course, but not much more. And things are much scarier today. Your argument about “specifics” falls flat. Here’s what I know about Newt just from watching interviews, debates & reading articles:

He wants to move towards a flat tax
Develop a plan for winning against radical Islam (notice he doesn’t need to know specifics)
use the military only when it’s clear we need to
End capital gains tax
repeal 0bamacare and let people buy across state lines
Repeal Dodd-Frank
lower gas prices to $2.50 a gallon
tap our own oil resources

Here’s what I know about Romney from articles and debates (I’m only talking about what they’ve proposed not flip flopping or whether I agree)
cut corporate taxes
have a cap on spending
repeal the death tax
reduce taxes for individuals and corporations
joining a union shouldn’t be mandatory
discuss the situation in Afghanistan with those in the field
be resolute with decisions & hold foreign leaders accountable

Here’s what I know about Rick:
he homeschools
everything the other candidates propose he thought of first
he has a daughter with a grave disability which caused him to take time off campaigning (what will happen if we have a crisis and his daughter is in the hospital)
he wants to regulate what adults can watch in their own homes
he’s actually bold enough to bomb Iran’s nuclear sites
he’ll repeal 0bamacare

Thus I know specifically he’ll repeal 0bamacare and do the right thing with Iran. Those are the specifics. Why can’t he do what the other candidates have? Yes voters should be proactive but the fact is most voters aren’t. They expect the candidate to inform and earn their vote. It’s also a way of vetting their communication skills which is vital for a president. There’s just no reason I shouldn’t have the same expectations of his ability to communicate as other candidates. If he can’t handle the press as a candidate how will he do it when something important (and controversial) comes up and they’re beating him over the head with it? How will he firmly get his point of view across to foreign leaders (especially radical ones) if he can’t even get his message out to a (hostile) press. Sorry but a candidate does bear the responsibility for getting some of his message out to the wider audience. Doing so would generate enough interest to want to read some of his policy papers.

Cindie


291 posted on 03/17/2012 2:18:24 PM PDT by gardencatz (I'm lucky enough to live, walk & breathe among heroes! I am the mother of a US Marine!)
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