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To: SaxxonWoods
Romney needs to win about 46% of the outstanding delegates to win the nomination outright.

Out of your three statistics you posted, that is the most telling.

Romney, correct me if I am wrong, has only been able to crack the 40% mark in liberal states and states with extremely small delegate counts. As long as both Newt and Santorum stay in the race, that 46% Romney needs is almost impossible.

Can you say Brokered Convention?

I can, and they truly sweet words!

Anything that weakens and/or destroys the candidacy of Mitt Romney is a wonderful thing to behold!
12 posted on 03/14/2012 9:16:15 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

It’s ironic!

Romney does better with Democrats and Moderates than he does against Conservatives. His hard “sell” that his is conservative, has wound up on deaf ears. I was watching him claim that he, is the only candidate who knows how to “work with both sides, to come to a mutual solution.” This is an indication of what to expect with Romney. (Especially, heavy for the “other” side.)


20 posted on 03/14/2012 9:29:06 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: SoConPubbie

Wrong, Romney had about 53% of the delegates as of last week even with only 39% of the vote. It gets easier for him to accumulate more in an imbalanced fashion since many more states will now be winner-take-all, including Puerto Rico, D.C., Utah, Delaware, etc. No predictions can now be made without an extremely careful state-by-state analysis analyzing every single rule in detail. The delegates needed to deny him the nomination are too close now. Nothing but a game-changer like Newt or Rick dropping out or Mitt getting indicted for something can ensure a Romney loss.


23 posted on 03/14/2012 9:39:49 AM PDT by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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To: SoConPubbie

It will be a controlled convention and the liberals of the GOP will not allow a conservative to obtain the nomination. We will have a liberal lackey shoved down our throats with a conservative VP slot bone tossed to us in hope of keeping conservatives on the reservation. The fix is in.


76 posted on 03/14/2012 11:25:23 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: SoConPubbie
You are confused. Winning 46% of the delegates is not the same as winning 46% of the vote. Some of the remaining states are winner take all. Romney can win with a plurality of 30% and take all the delegates. That's how Obama won the Democrat nomination in 2008.
105 posted on 03/14/2012 1:27:52 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: Jim Robinson; agere_contra; SoConPubbie; Iron Munro; SaxxonWoods; stars & stripes forever; ...

This si being debated on a lot of threads, so I pinged people from them here.

People need to look closely at what Newt said, and follow his directions - especially his supporters, who seem to be unaware of what exactly he was saying. Newt is trying to send a message to his people without falling afoul of campaign finance laws, so he can’t say what he is doing outright.

I think Newt was trying to say his plan now is to use all of his money to hammer Romney relentlessly, while not actively seeking support himself. If he does this successfully, and his voters support Santorum in Winner-take-all states, he might still help Santorum beat Romney in those states enough to trigger a brokered convention.

Quite a few later states tend towards winner take all delegates. So if Romney gets 37% in one, but everybody else gets less, Romney might as well have won with 100% - he gets all the delegates. Romney could get 45% in all of those states, and still walk away as if he had gotten 100% in that state - well above the 46% average of delegates he needs to avoid a brokered convention. That is what Newt is trying to stop – if his supporters can get on board with his plan.

That is why Newt could help Romney here though, if his supporters don’t get his message. If it’s 37% Romney and 36% Santorum in a winner take all state or district, Newt’s voters could do damage by voting for Newt (even damage to Newt’s chances of winning at a brokered convention). Fracturing the anti-Romney vote only hurts Newt’s chances at a brokered convention.

Newt cannot win this outright, in any form and he knows it. Santorum cannot win this outright either at this point, and is just hanging in with hopes of the unforseen. The only question is will there be a brokered convention, or will we just have Romney stuffed down our throats. The only chance of a brokered convention is for Rick to take the Winner-take-all states and districts he can in large numbers, and deny them to Romney. If Newt can deny Romney in other winner take all votes, then that is good too, and Santorum voters need to switch sides and make that happen. Ideally we could get the Ron Paul types on board as well, but that’s probably not going to happen.

This is why Newt was emphasizing in his statement that all he wants to do is keep Romney below 1100 delegates, and why he was saying it was his only goal now. He wasn’t saying he want’s more delegates, or more votes. That is a coded message to his supporters to do what they have to to keep Romney below 1100. That means, in a winner-take-all vote, if Santorum is ahead, or well above Newt, he needs Newt’s voters to jump in and push him over the top. In truth, that is probably the only way Newt has a shadow’s chance at this point in the process. Even more ironic, Santorum is probably not likely at all, as I can’t see him taking a brokered convention, where anyone could be the candidate, and that is likely his only chance.

Newt could also use more money, to keep his operation alive, as it is the only hope at this point to avoid spending the general watching the media run one bizarre clip after another of Romney squashing bugs and laughing, or otherwise embarrassing himself. Dan Quale is a smart, funny, witty guy, yet the media made him look really silly at times. Romney will make the media’s portrayal of Quale look like Einstein crossed with Patton. I’m pretty sure they are drooling at the prospect.

The big problem is, campaign laws won’t let Newt say, “Everyone vote for Rick in the winner take all contests, while I continue to hammer Romney.” He can only use his money to advance himself and his candidacy. If he becomes a Rick supporter, his money will be looked at as something other than a simple campaign fund for Newt for President.

Newt’s supporters need to see his strategy, and come to the conclusion themselves that in some states, voting for Rick is actually their best move for their candidate. Likewise it would help if Rick supporters would vote for Newt, if it looks like Newt can deny Romney some delegates elsewhere. We just need a brokered convention.

At this point, we all need to accept that our candidates are toast when it comes to an outright win and our only other chance, a brokered convention, is rapidly evaporating as an option. Our only hope is to unite together, right now, organize, and take Mitt down through superior tactical maneuvering through the nomination process - together as a team.

I could be wrong, but I think this is what Newt is trying to say, and it makes sense, from a strategic standpoint.

Be funny if a primary brought us together for a change.


145 posted on 03/15/2012 11:48:56 AM PDT by AnonymousConservative (Why did Liberals evolve within our species? www.anonymousconservative.com)
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