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‘Ishtar’ Lands on Mars ('John Carter' a colossal bomb for Disney, $165M writeoff, layoffs...)
NY Times ^ | 3/11/12 | BROOKS BARNES

Posted on 03/11/2012 1:32:54 PM PDT by jimbo123

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“John Carter,” a big-budget science fiction epic from Walt Disney Studios that opened Friday and flopped over the weekend. Disney spent lavishly (some say foolishly) on the movie in large part to keep one of its most important creative talents happy: Andrew Stanton, the Pixar-based director of “Finding Nemo” and “Wall-E.”

“John Carter,” which cost an estimated $350 million to make and market, and was directed by Mr. Stanton, took in about $30.6 million at the North American box office, according to Rentrak, which compiles box-office data. That result is so poor, even when factoring in about $71 million in overseas ticket sales, that analysts estimate that Disney will be forced to take a quarterly write-down of $100 million to $165 million.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: andrewstanton; barsoom; disney; edgarriceburroughs; findingnemo; hollyweird; johncarter; pixar; walle; waltdisneystudios
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To: jimbo123

Stupid to just name the movie after somebody’s name? I mean if the movie was just called “Indiana Jones” instead of “Raiders of the Lost Ark” who would have seen it?

Who the heck is John Carter? Sure the people who read the books know....but outside of that?


21 posted on 03/11/2012 1:54:05 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Fee

You would think so, but the amount of computer graphics that are crammed into movies seems to require an army of SFX people each working on one particular aspect of the film. Some people are only doing backgrounds, some people are only doing one particular scene, meanwhile, there is the team that creates the SFX monsters and then hands off the 3D effect to the compositors, who add the 3D effect to the scene so that it interacts with the human actors. Lots of unnecessary bloat and self-important visual effects artists who want free healthcare and to destroy capitalism, yet they still want to be highly paid, and work 30 hours a week.


22 posted on 03/11/2012 1:55:02 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: jimbo123

I’m always wary of big budget movies released in cinematic dump months - January and February primarily, but early March isn’t exactly summer blockbuster season.

I think I’ll pass and watch my copy of Blazing Saddles again instead.


23 posted on 03/11/2012 1:55:34 PM PDT by DemforBush (A Repo man is *always* intense!)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Movies about Mars almost aways flop. The only one that did well was Total Recall with Arnold.


24 posted on 03/11/2012 1:55:40 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: dfwgator

This bomb will be a case study in “what not to do” if you want to keep your studio job in Hollyweird.


25 posted on 03/11/2012 1:57:38 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Bialystock and Bloom could only dream of such a flop.

26 posted on 03/11/2012 2:00:43 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: jimbo123
Movies about Mars almost aways flop. The only one that did well was Total Recall with Arnold.

Hollywood spends a lot of time doing the same thing over and over again. One I watched recently that was very different was "Pandorum". The critics didn't like it but I found it to be very original with a great plot twist at the end.
27 posted on 03/11/2012 2:00:58 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: jimbo123

I read the John Carter on Mars series about 30 years ago. I absolutely loved them. I always thought it would be wonderful if they could make a movie about them, but I also knew that it would be impossible to do the stories justice at the (then) state of the art effects. So I’ve been waiting 30 years for this to finally happen.

I think Disney did a wonderful job of realizing the first book, Princess of Mars. It might be a little corny, but you have to remember that these stories were written more than 50 years ago and copied many, many times.

The characters and creatures and Barsoomian world were *exactly* like I pictured them from the books. Very well done, in my opinion. Captured the spirit of the books to a T.


28 posted on 03/11/2012 2:01:50 PM PDT by pjd
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To: jimbo123

One more reason I have netflix....patience pays off and it’s only eight bucks per month.


29 posted on 03/11/2012 2:02:25 PM PDT by ak267
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To: TangoLimaSierra

Most of the “Scifi Original” have sucky editing, and are low budget.. stupid NBC


30 posted on 03/11/2012 2:02:55 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: dfwgator

Stupid to name it after Jimmy Carter’s other trailer trash brother.


31 posted on 03/11/2012 2:03:11 PM PDT by duckworth (Perhaps instant karma's going to get you. Perhaps not.)
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To: dfwgator; Krankor

It shows a terrible lack of confidence to run away from the very premise of your movie in your title. The original title John Carter of Mars is a good title...different and intriguing. Just John Carter...who’s that and what’s the movie about? It’s sort of like Republicans trying to appeal to moderates. We have a unique brand here that could get attention and get people interested, but we’re going to run away from who we are and hide it in order to try to appeal to the type of people who don’t like us. You don’t make a sci-fi movie and then market it is non-sci-fi in the fear that it will only appeal to sci-fi fans. You make a movie that sci-fi fans are so enthusiastic about that other people get curious and wonder what all the fuss is about.


32 posted on 03/11/2012 2:03:43 PM PDT by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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To: JediJones

Imagine if Star Wars was called “Luke Skywalker”.


33 posted on 03/11/2012 2:05:38 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: jimbo123

But at least it should be good fodder for MST3K.


34 posted on 03/11/2012 2:06:30 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: jimbo123

It’s a real pity. I read all the John Carter books when I was younger, and you could say that I’ve been waiting all these years for someone to make the movie. I’ll probably go see it anyway, mainly because I have enjoyed other movies that were panned by the critics in the past and my grandsons really want to go. Even though I will acknowledge that Dune and Starship Troopers were terrible movies, I have enjoyed watching them both several times.


35 posted on 03/11/2012 2:07:22 PM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: jimbo123

The ‘bomb’ this weekend was Eddie Murphy’s new movie...0% at Rotten Tomatoes...0%. Carter got 50%, for crying out loud.


36 posted on 03/11/2012 2:07:22 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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37 posted on 03/11/2012 2:09:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: jimbo123

I think I’d prefer to watch “Flight to Mars” (1951) instead. Have a VHS tape of it somewhere around here.

Anyway, between the rampant degeneracy and the smug Obama-worship, I’ve become so repelled by Hollyweird that I actually derive enjoyment from news that their products turn out to be financial bombs. God, I hate them with a white-hot passion.


38 posted on 03/11/2012 2:09:05 PM PDT by greene66
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To: jimbo123

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/john_carter/


39 posted on 03/11/2012 2:09:47 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: GOPsterinMA

I was looking at pics of her ,she has a butter face....


40 posted on 03/11/2012 2:11:15 PM PDT by GSP.FAN (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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