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The Rush Limbaugh LIVE Radio Show Thread - Thursday, March 8, 2012

Posted on 03/08/2012 7:42:18 AM PST by IMissPresidentReagan

Quick post Hubby's grandmother is not doing well so off to see her. Please send prayers. She's a real gem!


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cholesterol; heartdisease; lundell; rushlimbaugh; rushlive; talkradio
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To: Fllyguy
Altogether now ...

I do very poorly in taking direction from others. In fact, I don't seem to follow along very well when someone uses a bullhorn to shout, "We" and "Let's", etc..

And for some really strange reason, I somehow prefer not to be treated like livestock when someone waves a cattle-prod around. Maybe its just me.

61 posted on 03/08/2012 10:25:34 AM PST by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: bluerose

Thanks for link! Honest...with husband’s “cocktail” of meds and instructions on eating (no “real”’eggs; no butter; lean, white meat or fish only) I called it “Frankenfoods” and was pretty much told THIS WAS THE SETTLED MEDICAL SCIENCE.


62 posted on 03/08/2012 10:26:39 AM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (Just because you are paranoid it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.)
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To: Excellence

What Rush is describing is what Atkins said about fat and the Atkins diet.

I have to say you that my daughter, who has been an elite athlete, works out daily and follows a low fat diet with little red meat, has had high cholesterol since she was in college. Her body fat is extremely low, yet she has high cholesterol.


63 posted on 03/08/2012 10:27:29 AM PST by Eva
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To: bluerose

Meant to say my brother swears by Lipitor for years but still has relatively high chol.

I love butter and olive oil. Love sugar too though..and bread...and pasta ;) The family likes Olivio spread.


64 posted on 03/08/2012 10:27:45 AM PST by bluerose (Newt Gingrich or Santorum and Col. Allen West for VP!)
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To: Eva

I have extremely low cholesterol, and I really like double-blind studies. There is good information here, but there is a danger in citing a doctor who has lost his license for the reasons stated. Rush should have vetted this guy first, and I sent an email to Rush saying so.


65 posted on 03/08/2012 10:32:38 AM PST by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: bluerose

Reducing cholesterol isn’t going to work if you don’t cut back on carbs at the same time.


66 posted on 03/08/2012 10:33:35 AM PST by Eva
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To: All
Just googled this guy's name because I missed Rush's mention of his website and lo and behold:

Dwight C. Lundell, M.D. lost medical license in 2008. Since that time he has been promoting books that clash with scientific knowledge of heart disease prevention and treatment.

What the hell is Rush pushing?

67 posted on 03/08/2012 10:37:01 AM PST by JohnG45
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To: Eva

Rush talking now about cars. I have a Toyota Rav4 (the little SUV), and I love it. It gets better gas mileage than advertised, it carries everything I want to take anywhere, and it’s a real pleasure to drive.


68 posted on 03/08/2012 10:37:37 AM PST by American Quilter (GO SANTORUM! Last true conservative in the race.)
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To: Eagle of Liberty

Well, I think that Obama wants to run against Romney and I will tell you why.

Obamacare will fundamentally change the US and shackle each and everyone of us to the government.

I’m thinking that Obama isn’t going to let this opportunity go down in flames. I think that Obama is planning to back down on the federal mandate before the election, right after Romney gets the nomination. Obama will instead call for states to individually pass the mandate. Romney has already said that this was possible.

Romney will be left standing there stammering and stuttering with nothing to say. Obama will have won.


69 posted on 03/08/2012 10:38:36 AM PST by Eva
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To: Excellence
Indeed. Doesn't Rush have an entire staff to look up this stuff? Granted, he was a heart surgeon for 25 years and you're bound to get some unhappy customers in that time.

A Skeptical Look at Dwight Lundell, M.D.

Stephen Barrett, M.D.

Dwight C. Lundell, M.D. lost medical license in 2008. Since that time he has been promoting books that clash with scientific knowledge of heart disease prevention and treatment. His book, The Great Cholesterol Lie, invites people to "forget about everything you have been told about low-fat diets, saturated fats, cholesterol and the causes of heart disease." According to The Great Cholesterol Lie Web site:

This article tells why I would not trust Lundell's advice.

Medical and Regulatory History

After graduating from the University of Arizona Medical School in 1971, Lundell completed a one-year internship and two years of surgical residency in general surgery at the University Medical Center in Tucson, Arizona, followed by two years of residency in chest surgery at Yale University Medical Center in New Haven, Connecticut. He became certified in cardiothoracic surgery, which he practiced for about 25 more years.

In 2007, Lundell began the Healthy Humans Foundation Blog, which stated that he was "refocusing" his career on the prevention and cure of heart disease [1]. He also produced a book called The Cure for Heart Disease which, according to its description on Amazon Books, "is different than every other book exploring the number one killer of Americans" and is "a riveting yet straight forward discussion that challenges public consensus, explains the reasons for the epidemic of heart disease, and provides an easy to follow guide to eliminate heart disease." [2] A comment on the Amazon pageindicate that it advocates a high-protein, low-carbohydrate diet, low-dose aspirin, and fish oil and conjugated linoleic acid supplements for everyone.

In 2004, the Healthy Humans Foundation issued a news release that plugged the book and said that Lundell had retired from the practice of surgery in 2004 [3].

Between 2000 and 2008, Lundell was subjected to five regulatory actions by the Arizona Medical Board:

Financial and Legal Trouble

Lundell also ran into considerable difficulty in his nonmedical affairs. Although the full records are not readily available, documents I found on the Internet indicate the following:

Other Activities

Lundell says he founded the Healthy Humans Foundation "to help the human race free themselves of chronic diseases such as obesity, diabetes, heart disease, mental disorders, and other diseases caused by improper nutrition and misleading consumer information." [11] I was unable to find an entry in the business listings of the Arizona Secretary State or the IRS's database of nonprofit organizations.

From 2007 through May 2010, Lundell was listed as an advisor to NourishLife, a company that markets vitamins, fish oil supplements, and conjugated linoleic acid supplements as "pharmaceutical grade" products claimed to help children with speech problems. After the Chicago Tribune criticized the products and mentioned that Lundell had lost his medical license [12], he was removed from the page of advisors on the NourishLife Web site.

Lundell's book, The Great Cholesterol Lie, is offered for $49.95 through The Truth About Health Disease Web site, which also invites people to sign up as members:

A free copy of The Great Cholesterol Lie is included in all three categories or can be obtained for $4.95 with a ten-day "trial membership." However, the site says that it is not accepting new members at this time.

The Bottom Line

Dr. Lundell would like you to believe that he has special knowledge of heart disease prevention. I do not trust his advice.

References

  1. Healthy Humans Foundation Blog, accessed Sept 18, 2011.
  2. The Cure for Heart Disease: The Truth Will Save a Nation. Amazon.com Web site, accessed Sept 18, 2011.
  3. Charles D. Retired Heart Surgeon Dwight Lundell Continues to Save Lives Retired heart surgeon Dwight Lundell spent 25 years performing over 5,000 heart surgeries. Today his newest book, The Cure for Heart Disease continues to save lives by exposing the truth behind the causes of heart disease and attacks. Healrthy Humand Foundation News Release, PR Web, Nov 11, 2008.
  4. Findings of fact, conclusions of law, and order (censure with probation). In the matter of Dwight C. Lundell Before the Arizona Board of Medical Examiners, June 27, 2000.
  5. Findings of fact, conclusions of law, and order (decree of censure & probation). In the matter of Dwight C. Lundell. Before the Arizona Board of Medical Examiners, March 20, 2004.
  6. Consent agrement and order for letter of reprimand and probation. In the matter of Dwight C. Lundell Before the Arizona Board of Medical Examiners, June 17, 2003.
  7. Findings of fact, conclusions of law, and order (license revocation). In the matter of Dwight C. Lundell Before the Arizona Board of Medical Examiners, October 9, 2008.
  8. Lundell D. Voluntary petition for bankruptcy. U.S. Bankruptcy Court, District of Arizona, filed Oct 14, 2005.
  9. Grado G. E.V. surgeon suing Banner for stripped privileges. East Valley Tribune, April 15, 2004.
  10. Arizona man sentenced to four years in prison for tax fraud. U.S. Department of Justice news release, May 15, 2005.
  11. About us. Healthy Humans Foundation Web site, archived Jan 26, 2009.
  12. Shelton DL. Speech experts are wary of untested supplement sold as a speech aid for kids with verbal apraxia. Chicago Tribune, Sept 10, 2010.

This article was revised on September 21, 2011. quot; [2] A comment on the Amazon pageindicate that it advocates a high-protein, low-carbohydrate diet, low-dose aspirin, and fish oil and conjugated linoleic acid supplements for everyone.Grado G.

70 posted on 03/08/2012 10:38:42 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Excellence

Interesting. But the facts he quotes in the article still stand, for instance:

Despite the fact that 25% of the population takes expensive statin medications and despite the fact we have reduced the fat content of our diets, more Americans will die this year of heart disease than ever before.


71 posted on 03/08/2012 10:39:09 AM PST by bluerose (Newt Gingrich or Santorum and Col. Allen West for VP!)
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To: JohnG45

I don’t know, but he should have vetted this guy first.


72 posted on 03/08/2012 10:40:10 AM PST by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: bluerose

Thanks for the link. I have taken myself off my statin prescription given to me due to chest pains, HDL too low and inflammation. I was always achy. I am totally free from soreness and working to regain my agility such as touching my toes while standing and head to knees. Food changes are key.

1. NO processed foods.

2. NO sugar and flour products.

3. I have dairy and meat sparingly - butter on baked sweet potatoes and cheese on salads. If I need something quick, I juice or eat raw vegetables. I never eat pork or bacon, chicken and beef are hormone free, antibiotic free, and grass fed.


73 posted on 03/08/2012 10:41:19 AM PST by texteacher
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To: pyx
Amen...today, the more I'm told I have to or something is inevitable, the more I go the other way.

I fear for my country but not because I think the GOP race is going on too long. I can only imagine how PO’d I would be if I lived in CA or TX and told I couldn't participate in the GOP primary because “we are splitting the vote” OR “we have to move on and focus on Obama”.

74 posted on 03/08/2012 10:42:58 AM PST by Fllyguy (We need a Commander-in-Chief, not a Pastor or Manager-in-Chief)
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To: IMissPresidentReagan

I tuned in late and caught only the tail end of the piece he was reading about inflammation in your arteries. Can you or anyone direct me to the article he was reading from? thanks!


75 posted on 03/08/2012 10:43:07 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Excellence

Most of the complaints stem from poor record keeping. Also, what doctor, practicing for 25 years, hasn’t had a complaint or 2 about a surgical procedure.


76 posted on 03/08/2012 10:43:07 AM PST by bluerose (Newt Gingrich or Santorum and Col. Allen West for VP!)
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To: Eva

Oh, I did. Not completely but a lot. I also walk 4-5 miles six days a week.


77 posted on 03/08/2012 10:45:05 AM PST by bluerose (Newt Gingrich or Santorum and Col. Allen West for VP!)
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To: sam_paine

I hope this doesn’t come back to bite Rush.

We’re good, aren’t we? Man, what did this take, 10 minutes?


78 posted on 03/08/2012 10:45:16 AM PST by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: sam_paine

Why would any good FReeper automatically believe the Arizona Board of Medical Examiners?


79 posted on 03/08/2012 10:45:20 AM PST by donna (Republicans won't change their ways until conservatives draw the line.)
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To: JohnG45

I googled the doctor also. Piecing together several from several sites:

It seems he practiced medicine for 32 years and retired. In retirement, he began alternative medicine. He lost his license due to losing diction notes.?

IMHO...he was a target of mainstream medicine, big pharma, and food corporations.

My new diet keeps me out of the middle of the grocery store just veggies, fruits, some grain, some meat, and some diary.


80 posted on 03/08/2012 10:53:37 AM PST by texteacher
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