Posted on 03/07/2012 11:29:57 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Ever since Sarah Palins end-of-life counseling death panel remarks exploded into national consciousness in 2009, I have researched the real power ObamaCare will have to overrule your doctors decisions about whats best for your health care.
Forget death panels. Starting in July 2014, if Barack Obama is still president, a 15-member board that he selects with Senate confirmation the Independent Payment Advisory Board will be in charge of deciding when to reduce government spending per capita (for each person) on health care.
Opponents such as Congressman Phil Gingrey, R-Ga., who is also a doctor and the co-chairman of the House GOP Doctors Caucus, know the IPAB will have the authority to reduce Medicare spending if it exceeds the administrations imposed growth rate on an annual basis.
This bunch of bureaucrats, as Gingrey described these health rationers, will have the power to decide whether you can depend on government funds to continue on dialysis or cancer chemotherapy (Obamas Advisory Board Could Be a Real Killer, Peter Roff, usnews.com, June 28).
Another Republican congressman, Phil Roe, R-Tenn., who was a physician before going into politics, puts it more plainly:
Basically, theres a certain amount of money thats allocated for Medicare spending each year. Once you hit that amount thats been appropriated, the Independent Payment Advisory Board can then decide, not based on quality or need, but based on strictly cost to stop payment (Real death panels set to face heat in Congress, courts, Matthew Boyle, The Daily Caller, March 22).
What especially chills me is that not a single member of this health jury will have actually seen the patient, thanks to ObamaCare.
At least when the courts have determined the death penalty for a capital crime, the doomed citizen will have previously been able to challenge the sentence. But under ObamaCare, its as if the citizen whose very life is endangered may be disposed of under the presidents ultimate authority, as if by a pilotless drone. There is no due process in this section of ObamaCare either.
In Coons v. Geithner, a 2010 civil rights complaint filed in the U.S. District Court for the District of Arizona, attorneys from the libertarian Goldwater Institute are asking that court to declare that the federal Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010 (the official, phony name of ObamaCare) ... violates the United States Constitution on a number of counts, including the notorious mandate that American citizens be forced to buy insurance (from the Coons v. Geithner filing).
In his story for The Daily Caller, Matthew Boyle quoted Diane Cohen, the lead attorney for the Goldwater Institute that is representing the plaintiffs in Coons v. Geithner, who further explained the contorted history of the dreaded IPAB. (Future historians take note as should you when you vote in the next presidential election):
There was a lot of controversy over it (IPAB) when ObamaCare was being considered in Congress by both sides of the aisle, Cohen said, referring to more than 50 Democrats who wrote to then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi voicing their opposition to it.
It was very controversial and made its way into the law just because of the manner in which the whole law was passed to begin with. Even the American Medical Association, who has supported ObamaCare for some reason, had come out and opposed the establishment of the Independent Payment Advisory Board.
And under what kinds of pressure did Obama extinguish certain Democrats opposition to the establishment of this historic death board?
My waning respect for the American Medical Association collapsed when it voted to exclude its membership as IPAB commanded from deciding whats best for their patients. Did any members of the AMA resign in protest?
Meanwhile, our Supreme Court believes its eventual ruling on ObamaCare is so important that it has scheduled three days of oral arguments on March 26, 27 and 28 (a rare expansion).
Many Americans would be eager to be present at the high court via television some of us just to get a sense of how long we may live. But the justices are sticking to their longtime refusal to allow TV cameras in their courtroom for oral arguments.
Some of them want to retain their anonymity when they move amongst the common people. Would you recognize Justice Anthony Kennedy often the swing vote on the court if he were on the same elevator as you?
Others insist that the solemnity of their grave proceedings would be marred by the intrusion of this theatrical distraction. But wouldnt you like to see Justice Antonin Scalia lashing out at the impenetrable ignorance of certain colleagues?
As I have written, sitting in the privileged press section at the high court, I have learned a great deal about the degree of independence and quality of judiciousness of these nine highly elevated Americans who can impact so many of our lives, often for long periods.
But now, breaking news of an as yet unknown future: The House Energy and Commerce Committee voted Tuesday, by a voice vote, to repeal the Independent Payment Advisory Board. This repeal still has to go before the Rules and Ways and Means Committees, as well as eventually the Senate.
Ill keep you posted on what happens. The nations doctors are also very eager to know.
I'll stick with that storyline if anyone asks.
I am way less worried about obama’s death squads than I am the gross incompetence of my doctors.
Hey, but I am old enough you young people are paying for the crappy medical care I receive. Just wait awhile, and one of these quacks will relieve you of paying for my medical care.
Why do you continue to see incompetent doctors?
Basically, theres a certain amount of money thats allocated for Medicare spending each year. Once you hit that amount thats been appropriated, the Independent Payment Advisory Board can then decide, not based on quality or need, but based on strictly cost to stop payment...”
I see nothing wrong with this. There is no goose laying golden eggs. I have no insurance and am not eligible for state or Federal aid. So I am out of luck if I need any life-saving care. No money, too bad - so sad.
That's what I get for not smoking, drinking or using drugs. Just went to work for 32 years starting at age 18, took early retirement due to a Management restructure and back to work at a different company six months after that.
Hardly took a sick day all those years and wham...
BTW - When my Oncologist told me I probably had 10 -15 years left I said, "you mean I'm getting ripped off by SS and Medicare"? He was not amused, but that's what really pissed me off about it. Nobody gets out alive and someone else will be enjoying, if they haven't already, the $300,000 plus that I "contributed" to the cause. Wish I had it now so I could enjoy life a little more, but the Government just pissed it away hoping I would die before getting any of it. No complaints about my Doctors. I'm sorry you don't have the same faith in yours. With my prognosis, you'll probably be doing the Irish Jig on my grave anyway. You take good care my FRiend. Don't give up in trying to find a Doctor you trust.
Ooogah boogah! Soylent Green is people..
Im stillwaiting for someone to Introduce Ezekiel Emmanuel to the American People,He of The COMPLETE LIVES SYSTEM,he was awarded 1 Billion dollars in the Stimulus Bill to chair the Comparative Effectiveness Research panel that dovetails with the IPAB panel. The American People I think would like to Know that if you are between the age of 15 and 45 you will get the Bulk of Health care Spending,outside of that you will get a Pill and told to go home you have had your Quality of life years.
Wow. That was my first thought, too.
tdscpa, you do know doctors aren’t Gods, that 50% of them graduate in the lower half of their class, and that you can change doctors, right?
Here's the key quote from the article.
will have the power to decide whether you can depend on government funds to continue on dialysis or cancer chemotherapy
As far as I am concerned, the only potential problem is if the feds try to curtail the right to spend one's own money on health care. I'd fight that like crazy, but at the same time I'm totally in favor of reducing government health care spending by any means whatever.
How about nobody gets “the Bulk of Health care Spending”, but instead everyone pays their own way??
As far as I am concerned, the only potential problem is if the feds try to curtail the right to spend one's own money on health care. I'd fight that like crazy, but at the same time I'm totally in favor of reducing government health care spending by any means whatever.
All of you people who think this way are full of it. To start with we will ALL be forced into a single payer plan, ran by the government, that is the basic plan behind Bozo care. Secondly, the people on SS and Medicare now were forced into it by the socialist system that FDR started and that we all let continue down through the years. It needs to be gradually phased out, not ended abruptly.
Believe it, these death panels will be for all of us, 100%, once the single payer plane is in full effect.
Medicare is currently spending far, far more than it takes in. Do you suggest we (a)raise its taxes, (b)cut its benefits, or (c)try to recruit a magic dwarf who can spin straw into gold?
Hentoff ping
Love this guy. Still spry enough to make trouble there trouble is needed.
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Doctor!!
There are two kinds of doctors. There are regular doctors. And there are “healers”. “Healers” want the credit for curing you. And they get pissed at you for not getting well.
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