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Marine's daughters held 13 hours after he was shot, attorney says
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com ^ | 3/7/2012 | http://latimesblogs.latimes.com

Posted on 03/07/2012 8:01:16 PM PST by dragnet2

For 13 hours after they watched an Orange County sheriff’s deputy fatally shoot their father, the traumatized daughters of Marine Sgt. Manuel Loggins were held for questioning and not allowed to join their mother

The accusation is contained in a claim Dunn said he would file Wednesday with the county, giving notice that the Loggins family plans to file suit in Superior Court against the Sheriff’s Department and the deputy for wrongful death.

An attorney representing Darren Sandberg, identified as the deputy who shot Loggins, declined comment.

Orange County Sheriff Sandra Hutchens declined to comment on the facts of the case, saying the district attorney’s office is investigating. “Everybody wants answers,” she said. “That is what the investigation is for.”

The girls, ages 14 and 9, were in the family SUV with their father when the deputy fired into the vehicle before dawn on Feb. 7. The department said Loggins had crashed through a gate at the parking lot, walked to a nearby athletic field, and then ignored Sandberg’s orders not to restart the SUV.

At first, the department said Sandberg fired out of concern for his own safety but later said Sandberg -– a former Marine -- feared for the girls’ safety.

Loggins had been unarmed.

The girls were held at the Orange County Sheriff’s Department and were not allowed to see their mother until 6 p.m. that day,

“They probably kept asking them over and over and over what was going on till they got the answer they wanted.”

He said Loggins had committed no crime, posed no threat to anyone’s life and that Sandberg shot him “multiple times.”

He worked at Camp Pendleton, and left behind three daughters and a pregnant wife, Phoebe, who gave birth to their fourth daughter days ago.

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Anyone recall this event which occurred not long ago?

Still investigating? Are they waiting until everyone forgets about this?

Still being investigated, yet all the players were accounted for within minutes after this event?

This just reeks and stunk bad from the beginning.

1 posted on 03/07/2012 8:01:18 PM PST by dragnet2
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bttt


2 posted on 03/07/2012 8:04:16 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

I do recall. This is outrageous.


3 posted on 03/07/2012 8:05:14 PM PST by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: dragnet2

Seriously, what is taking so long? They’re just going to issue the canned “not the cop’s fault” report. They always do...


4 posted on 03/07/2012 8:06:47 PM PST by piytar (Rebellion is here! Free Republic is on the front line! NEVER SURRENDER!)
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To: dragnet2
I don't know about California, but in Washington State you can't ask a kid any questions unless a parent, guardian, or court appointed representative is present. Holding the kids makes no sense at all.

The shooting was just plain strange. I don't know if we will ever know what happened there.

5 posted on 03/07/2012 8:09:26 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: dragnet2

There sure seems to be a lot of this sort of thing going on. How many of the victims are oathkeepers?


6 posted on 03/07/2012 8:13:22 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: USNBandit

The cops think they can do anything they want. And sadly, they usually can.

Want a lawyer? Sure, no problem. We’ve got a place you can wait until the court appoints you one.

The constitution is no more.


7 posted on 03/07/2012 8:14:32 PM PST by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." - Peter Griffin)
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To: dragnet2

Thanks for this additional information. This story stinks so badly, I’m afraid that they are trying to cover it up.
Prayers for the family. May they obtain justice, although nothing will make up for the death of their husband and father.


8 posted on 03/07/2012 8:15:28 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: dragnet2

Thanks for posting.

But, I feel very sick after reading the article.


9 posted on 03/07/2012 8:28:55 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Cicero
TWO WEEKS after this incident, Jim Amormino, the grand spokesman for the Orange County Sheriff's Department said Loggins' daughters were also interviewed by investigators, but Amormino said he didn't know what they said or if their story lined up with the deputy's.

How in tarnation could he not know?

10 posted on 03/07/2012 8:29:11 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

bttt


11 posted on 03/07/2012 8:33:30 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Texas Fossil

I too feel sick. I just finished reading “Enemies Foreign and Domestic” by Matt Bracken a novel but oh how true it is...our domestic enemies are by far the most scary these days.


12 posted on 03/07/2012 8:34:15 PM PST by An American! (Proud To Be An American!)
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To: dragnet2
I do remember this story. Thanks for ping.

Still not much new info other than a suit being filed. OCSD has a big problem. From previous reports Sgt. Loggins was a Marine's Marine and a model father and citizen. I don't know what he did or didn't do that morning but they're going to have a tough time painting Sgt. Loggins in a bad light.

13 posted on 03/07/2012 8:41:44 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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After weeks and weeks have now gone by, what happened to all those that didn't want to comment until the investigation was over?

When they were asked what could possibly take so long, when all the players accounted for within minutes after this incident, they fell silent, suggesting this was somehow a complex case.

Is OCSD waiting for spy satellite images of the scene, hoping something might have been caught by one of our satellites?

What happened to the elvis-lives who suggested the Maine was a nutjob, where the deputy did not know if the girls were kidnapped sex slaves, illegal aliens or escaped mental patients, who suggested the Deputy who shot the unarmed Marine to death, "Deserved a medal."

Where are these people?

14 posted on 03/07/2012 8:50:18 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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And we have probable cause on the Illegal Alien residing at 1600 Penn ave DC.

Where is the no knock door kick squad when we need them?

15 posted on 03/07/2012 9:03:34 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Mohammedan law every woman must belong to a man will delay the end of slavery until Islam has ceased)
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To: TigersEye
Still not much new info other than a suit being filed.

Actually, this is a bombshell, given the fact the young girls, according this this info, were held for questioning for about 13 hours, without allowing even the Mother of the girls to join them.

These young girls watch their Dad get shot to death, and then spend the next 13 hours being interrogated or manipulated?

In fact in the link below, members were speculating if the girls were questioned with an attorney or relatives present.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2845384/posts?page=92#92

16 posted on 03/07/2012 9:06:17 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
I thought it was previously reported that they were held and questioned. I recall reading the following info before.

Jim Amormino, the grand spokesman for the Orange County Sheriff's Department said Loggins' daughters were also interviewed by investigators, but Amormino said he didn't know what they said or if their story lined up with the deputy's.

17 posted on 03/07/2012 9:11:43 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: dragnet2

I do hope the family sues on behalf of the girls - and makes it a class action suit. A friend’s granddaughter was also questioned illegally - and I am sure a newspaper ad inviting suit participation would produce thousands of similar cases.

Though I do hope they are not from such egregious instances of police abuse.


18 posted on 03/07/2012 9:16:54 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: TigersEye
If they had shot your wife to death, would you allow them to interrogate two young kids for 13 hours? without you being present?

Yes, Jim Amormino, the grand spokesman for the Orange County Sheriff's Department said Loggins' daughters were also interviewed by investigators, but Amormino said he didn't know what they said or if their story lined up with the deputy's.

What they didn't tell you is from about 5:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. the girls were interrogated without allowing the young girls mother to join them.

This case is not complex. Why would an interrogation take this long?

Once again, how is it possible, two weeks after this incident, the OCSD spokesperson stated had no idea what the two girls said?

Only a moron would buy this.

Not only that, how could they do this to two young girls, who had just hours earlier, watched their father get shot to death?

19 posted on 03/07/2012 9:23:48 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Did the cops shoot the family dog. That’s the question.


20 posted on 03/07/2012 9:42:10 PM PST by SkyDancer
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