Posted on 03/05/2012 6:10:14 AM PST by blam
SHIPPING CEO: Iran Could Send Oil To $440/Barrel
Gus Lubin
March 5, 2012
US Navy
The scariest Iran scenario yet comes from Bob Bandos, CEO of marine logistics and services company GAC North America.
Bandos tells Pierre Bertrand of the International Business Times:
[T]ankers can haul 1.8 million barrels of oil a day through the strait. If that supply is choked off, the effect would be similar to the fuel shortages of the 1970s - but more extreme, Bandos said.
"That would be nothing compared to this," Bandos said, who added the shortage would be global.
If the 1973 embargo experience repeats itself, the price of a barrel of oil could soar to $440 a barrel.
This scenario is more bearish than we've heard from most banks. Societe Generale, for instance, said oil could rise to $200 were the Strait closed. Of course the $440 figure was picked up by the pro-Iranian Tehran Times (via @DougKass).
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My prediction:
A military strike will be made on Iran's nuclear facilities about the middle of April.
Iran will manage to close the Strait Of Hormuz but, not for long.
I think only about 14% of our (USA) oil comes through the Strait Of Hormuz.
(On a interesting little side note, the Persian Gulf was bone dry during the Ice Age)
Captain Bandos:
No, oil will not come close to 440.
The world economy dies at about 200 a barrell, if not sooner. Folks won’t go anywhere or buy anything they don’t absolutely have to. And they’ll buy less of that.
Bullsh!t
Good thing I didn’t need any gas during the ice age!!
Tend to agree. They can try but it won’t stay closed for long. However, oil being fungible it doesn’t matter what percent of oil comes from where. If global supply is effected, global price will go up, regardless of who gets which oil from where.
Interesting little side note? WTF? Relevance? ;o}
“Iran Could Send Oil To $440”. “I think only about 14% of our (USA) oil comes through the Strait Of Hormuz.” .......................................... LOL, at $440 a barrel our domestic oil will be sent over seas. 90 % of our oil will be exported and 10% will be left for our gasoline consumption at $20+ a gallon. :(
We’d be in a pretty good position right now if USA was a major crude oil exporter. Can you imagine if we had about 10 ro 15 million barrels a day to be able to export from American Companies based off American shores?
This entire issue in the ME would be a good economic thing for us. Kind of makes you wonder what Russia and China’s interest in preserving the caos is, huh.
No way. There is no way we are striking Iran.
Put another way:
Newt Here. Newt Now. Pay Less.
I would bet it is less than that more like 8%.
But here is our problem; the countries who are denied the oil will have to pay higher prices.
The countries who are presently supplying us will continue to do it if we pay the higher prices. Otherwise they will ship oil to the Europeans and others who are cut off. These oil companies are in business to make money, not to be nice guys. -Tom
I agree with you on this (and most everything you post). Oil at 440 a barrel would be priced so far out of the realm of reality, that EVERYTHING would shut down. Literally, no one would be able to buy anything, and most would be unable to drive to work. Some people now may spend several hundred a month in gas to go to work (When I lived in the metro area, and gas was back at $2.50/gallon a few years ago, I spent nearly $300/month, and that was in a gas-saving Corolla!). If gas quadrupled, I sure as heck could not have afforded the extra $500-1000/month (depending on how much other driving I cut out), and It may have actually paid off to NOT go into work some days (this was many years ago, when I had just started a new job and didn’t make much money).
Anyway, you’re absolutely correct. The world literally runs off of cheap transportation. If we don’t have it, people are going to get really feisty, really quick. No more cheap fuel, means no more cheap food. And if food isn’t cheap, and people are starving, it’ll be World War 3 in a matter of weeks, if not days.
If not a doomsday prepper, they’ll at least become a hunker down and waiter....people who make these predictions clearly do not live in the real world. They act like its just “pain at the pump” without realizing it is devastation and the very foundation of our economy and our liberty.
Don’t bet on that, not in the slightest. “Dear Leader” will go to any war his task masters demand of him, and you can take that to the bank. It’ll be sooner, rather than later, mind you.
Thought you might like this ping as an FYI.
Very good point. People need to understand that oil is fungible and when theres not enough of it, everyone who buys it will pay that premium.
And actually its not just oil. To some degree, all energy is fungible. If we had more drilling and more nuclear and more coal and nat gas, ALL OF IT would be much less expensive because many fuel usages can use multiple sources (like elec utilities for instance).
And unfortunately, those people who become “preppers” at that point, will have decided to prepare when it’s already too late. As they say, “When the time for performance has come, the time for preparation has passed.” We’ve been warning people for years that the gap was closing, but the “let the good times roll” crowd was too busy living high on the Chinese-indebted hog. Well, that gravy train has left the station, and whether we go to war with Iran or not (we will), the debt chickens WILL come home to roost as the Fed prints money to cover the deficit spending the Chinese have walked out on.
The Titannic is sinking one way or another. For those that are already in the lifeboats, it’s time to be paddling. For those who aren’t in, I sure hope you’re moving towards them. And for everyone else who doesn’t care to prepare, grab your neighbor and pray for repentance when the SHTF, because you waited way, way, too long.
While we may not rely on the straits for our oil it will impact our ability to have oil as the prices will sky rocket and we could sell it to China to make money of the oil we have here.
This would/could lead us to a global depression.
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