“No one - including me - has said Santorum has run on “character alone instead of real policy ideas”.”
That’s impossible, because I just said that he is running on character alone instead of real policy ideas. So have half a dozen other people on this forum. How are you quoting me if that’s not the case?
“But we are saying we fully support his clear cut social issues and his character. Not sure why you have a problem with that.”
Because your voting for the myth of his personality as opposed to actual platform ideas. I’ve never heard a Santorum supporter actually trumpet some particular idea of Santorum’s as the reason we should vote for him. It’s always about how he’s a better Christian than Newt Gingrich, the husband of one wife, who believes so passionately in conservative ideals, when he isn’t endorsing Specter for Congress or for the presidency that is. If he was as holy and as pure as he claims, he’d be supporting a form of the flat or fair taxes or at least offering some significant reform somewhere. He isn’t, so he’s not.
But instead of being aware of this, you Santorum guys keep accusing everybody of either being Mittbots, hating Christianity, being afraid of religion, hating “God’s truth,” being a hater, and so on and so forth.
The farthest I ever got with a Santorum supporter on actual policy issues was with Lazlo, and what he said was that we can’t pass anything important anyway so a flat tax or social security privatization or whatever else doesn’t matter. It’s impossible to reform government to that degree he argued. And that he did with sprinkled insults about Newt’s integrity and my own. I even had to teach him what Santorum’s platform even was, since he had no argument to really promote it.
When Santorum supporters can only belittle others with religious and social platitudes, it’s a sign of a character candidate, not a real candidate. That’s how we got Barack Hussain Obama.
“Tell us. Just what do you find so offensive about our moral and religous thoughts?”
To be honest with you, it’s that it isn’t real. It’s like Socrates. You don’t know that you don’t know. You don’t know that all the religious and social issues are only being used to promote a perception of character and cover up a lack of substance. It’s being used to demonstrate how Holy and Principled he is, even though his platform doesn’t support it. It’s a part of his constant hypocrisy, pretending to be “above it all” while being right there stuck in it, and bashing the other candidates on a personal level, and refusing to acknowledge any good ideas.
Look how Newt handles his opponents and then talk to me about gifts of the spirit (love, charity, so forth, incase you didn’t know any of them...). That’s the fundamental difference between the candidates. Saint Rick likes to trumpet his religiosity, but there isn’t much proof that it actually exists in the way he conducts himself. Saint Rick and his supporters should study Matthew 6:
Matthew 6
1Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.2Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.3But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:4That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.5And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.6But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.7But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
Look. I don’t have the time right now to decipher your newbie libspeak that started in your anti-Santorum/anti-religious nonesense from post 56.
But I do find it amusing that you start quoting the Bible as you attack our Christian viewpoints.
IBTZ.
Great post, Apollo. It is one thing when someone compliments another person on their courage, but when someone touts himself as “Courageous” as Rick did in the debate, it really puts a spotlight on the that person in a very unflattering way. One thing no one will ever accuse Rick of is modesty or humility.