'Obama is NOT a Christian -- Why Won't Rev. Franklin Graham and Rick Santorum Admit it?'

I think Rev. Peterson would say that it doesn't matter what church you belong too...the devil can go to church and cause havoc. I can think of one church in particular that embraces gays lesbians abortion etc. It says it is a Christian church, but come on...of course it is not. We should be wiser than to fall for labels at this point. A letter I got from BOND says on the envelope...A POLITICALLY INCORRECT...YET POWERFUL...SOLUTION TO SAVE BLACK FAMILIES AND AMERICA!

POLITICALLY INCORRECT...Jesus would approve IMHO

Rev. Graham's refusal to answer truthfully when asked on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" whether he believes the president is a Christian. Graham said he doesn't know whether Obama is a Christian. However, Graham did say that there was "no question" that Santorum and Gingrich are men of faith.

I think Graham was truthful, if a bit weaselish. Obama could be a Muslim, a self-worshiping Atheist, or one of the most deluded and misinformed Christians alive. Graham cannot know what is in that liar's heart. Given his willingness to call two decent men Christians, I think I know which way he is leaning, but I also think he was right to refuse to commit.

Well no Christian church equals the actual non-Christianity of the Latter Day Saints, but I don’t know that we can officially and formally pronounce that sinning Christians, or weak Christians are not Christians at all.

I would not make any formal pronouncement, but would only ask the question. How can someone who believes in the teachings of the Holy Bible possibly defend abortion, especially late-term abortion.

I think the question itself would lead most thinking people to the same conclusion at which I arrived.

You know, we are no better off, safer than Israel right now. What Santorum said in that wonderful speech of 2008 is true and I can see people all over the world lining up, choosing sides for Armagedon...

We need the courage of the heroes in the bible now. To stand up for whats true and right. We got into this position by compromising, by watering down our indignation...look how long we have allowed abortion to be legal here in America.

At least we should be able to say 'OBAMA IS NOT A CHRISTIAN'!!

I’m with you Judy. It’s a no brainer. If you have to figure it out, maybe you’re not a christian yourself.

don’t know that we can officially and formally pronounce that sinning Christians, or weak Christians are not Christians at all.

Yes we can. Doesn't it say that you cannot know God and sin? In John 1 I believe. The churches have been invaded, watered down where they don't even talk about evil anymore. Everyone thinks if they just 'accept Jesus as their savior' that is all it takes. There is no discussion of what that entails. The devil can say that.

Christians may judge on matters on which they have personal knowledge. If you see someone stagger out of a tavern and down the street, it is OK to judge that person is drunk. However, only Christ can, and will judge on matters of the heart. We cannot judge motivation.

Judging others is a ticklish matter.

I think Franklin Graham does a better job of making his statement regarding Obama and Christianity.

By the way, no one will mention the leading Republican candidate for the presidency, the non-Christian, Mormon Bishop, Mitt Romney.

ABSOLUTELY INDEED.

Are there ANY well known politicos in D.C.

who are NOT globalist Marxist socialist shills?

. . . some may have a veneer of RINO white wash on the outside . . . but virtually all I can readily think of seem to be more than a little pink on the inside.

Where are the preachers? How strong can their faith be when they’re afraid to speak out against a true ANTI Christian? And maybe THE anti Christian.

I know of a big time Baptist preacher whom I used to love to hear preach until he started saying he was praying for “President Obama” and that obama was not trying to intentionally harm this country. I listen to this preacher no more. It was very disappointing.

I don’t know. I think alot of them have been deceived, have been intimidated. What we need are Jesse Petersons who aren’t afraid to tell the truth boldly and unapoligetically (is that a word?!)

Couldn't agree more.

I’m with you..but what other team is there? Just curious...

I won't presume to answer for him but one possibility is Judaism.

By the way, no one will mention the leading Republican candidate for the presidency, the non-Christian, Mormon Bishop, Mitt Romney.

It's gonna be a great day when bishop Romney is finally beaten in the primaries, then we won't even have to think about him for 4 more years, when he runs yet again.

YOu’re right, he freemailed me.

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Obama, since he was born of a Muslim father, was born a Muslim by Islamic law.

There is no doubt he is STILL a Muslim.

Al-Takeyya

The Islamic principle of lying for the sake of Allah. Falsehoods told to prevent denigration of Islam, to protect oneself, or to promote the cause of Islam are sanctioned by the Qur’an, including lying under penalty of perjury in testimony before the United States Congress, lying or making distorted statements to the media such as claiming that Islam is a religion of peace, and deceiving fellow Muslims when the one lying has deemed them to be apostates. The word literally means to protect or guard against and conveys the principle that Muslims are permitted to lie as a preventative measure to protect themselves and Islam, especially in life or liberty threatening circumstances.

Just a few quotes from his speeches:

“Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“it is important for Western countries to avoid impeding Muslim citizens from practicing religion as they see fit”
Barack Hussein Obama

“We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over so many centuries to shape the world for the better, including my own country.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“The contribution of Muslims to the United States are too long to catalog because Muslims are so interwoven into the fabric of our communities and our country”
Barack Hussein Obama

“I have lived in a Muslim-majority country... I know, because I am one of them.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“And since our founding, American Muslims have enriched the United States.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“And I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“Moreover, freedom in America is indivisible from the freedom to practice one’s religion. That is why there is a mosque in every state of our union, and over 1,200 mosques within our borders. That is why the U.S. government has gone to court to protect the right of women and girls to wear the hijab, and to punish those who would deny it.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“We are not nor have we even been at war with Islam”
Barack Hussein Obama
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BILLIONS FOR JIHAD!

THE AVERAGE AMERICAN HASN’T A CLUE AS TO THE BILLIONS OF AMERICAN TAX PAYER DOLLARS THAT OMUSLIM HAS THROWN AWAY WHILE THREATENING TO WITHOUT SENIOR’S SS AND GUTTING THE MILITARY:

Obamas 2009 Supplemental Appropriations for Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Pandemic Flu was revised and passed by the full committee.
It gives billions http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2009/05/1...
of U.S. taxpayer dollars to countries and entities that support Sharia law and/or harbor, hide and support those who want to destroy the U.S. and our allies.
Read the summary from David Obeys office that was quietly released last week with nary a word from any media.

$3.6 billion, matching the request, to expand and improve capabilities of the Afghan security forces

$400 million, as requested, to build the counterinsurgency capabilities of the Pakistani security forces

Afghanistan:$1.52 billion,$86 million above the request

West Bank and Gaza:$665 million in bilateral economic, humanitarian, and security assistance for the West Bank and Gaza

Jordan:$250 million,$250 million above the request, including $100 million for economic and $150 million for security assistance

Egypt:$360 million,$310 million above the request, including $50 million for economic assistance,$50 million for border security, and $260 million for security assistance

Pakistan:$1.9 billion,$591 million above the request

Iraq:$968 million,$336 million above the request

Oversight:$20 million,$13 million above the request, to expand oversight capacity of the State Department, USAID, and the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan to review programs in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq
Lebanon:$74 million

International Food Assistance:$500 million,$200 million above the request, for PL 480 international food assistance to alleviate suffering during the global economic crisis

Refugee Assistance:$343 million,$50 million above the request, including humanitarian assistance for Gaza. Funding for the UN Relief and Works Agency programs in the West Bank and Gaza is limited to $119 million (Note: Gaza = Hamas)

Disaster Assistance:$200 million to avert famines and provide life-saving assistance during natural disasters and for internally displaced people around the world, including Somalia, Zimbabwe, Ethiopia, the Middle East and South Asia

Peacekeeping:$837 million for United Nations
peacekeeping operations, including an expanded mission in the Democratic Republic of the Congo and a new mission in Chad and the Central African Republic

Department of Justice:$17 million, matching the request, for counter-terrorism activities and to provide training and assistance for the Iraqi criminal justice system
Obama gives your tax dollars to rebuild Muslim mosques around the world
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/... #

ACCORDING TO THE ASSOCIATED PRESS, THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION WILL GIVE AWAY NEARLY $6 MILLION OF AMERICAN TAX DOLLARS TO RESTORE 63 HISTORIC AND CULTURAL SITES, INCLUDING ISLAMIC MOSQUES AND MINARETS, IN 55 NATIONS. See the State Department document here.
http://exchanges.state.gov/media/pdfs/office-...

And THAT’S just the tip of the iceberg.
THIS will blow your mind!!

http://gbk.eads.usaidallnet.gov/
They should have 2010 up, but they don’t. That’s where you’ll find Obama’s largesse towards Muslim countries really go off the charts.
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http://www.foreignassistance.gov/DataView.aspx

charts:

http://gbk.eads.usaidallnet.gov/data/fast-facts.html

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From Dreams From My Father: “THE PERSON WHO MADE ME PROUDEST OF ALL, THOUGH, WAS MY [half brother], ROY..HE CONVERTED TO ISLAM”.

From ‘Dreams From my Father’, “IN INDONESIA, I SPEND TWO YEARS AT A MUSLIM SCHOOL” “..I STUDIED THE KORAN..”

‘Audacity of Hope: “LOLO (Obama’s step father) FOLLOWED ISLAM....”I LOOKED TO LOLO FOR GUIDANCE”.

From ‘The Audacity Of Hope, “I WILL STAND WITH THEM (MUSLIMS) SHOULD THE POLITICAL WINDS OF WAR SHIFT IN AN UGLY DIRECTION..”

http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20080101164820/http://www.examiner.co m/a-536474~_Trapped_between_two_worlds_.html?cid=dc-article-obama

http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20080101164820/http://www.examiner.com/a-536474~_Trapped_between_two_worlds_.html?cid=dc-article-obama
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OBAMA MOCKS THE BIBLE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnmS_vULPxw

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0bamas’ hidden records:
Why are these off limits?
Why has he paid out millions to lawyers
to keep all this hidden???
1 Certified copy of original birth certificate
2 Columbia University transcripts
3 Columbia thesis paper
4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5 Harvard University transcripts
6 Illinois State Senate records
7 Illinois State Senate schedule
8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother
10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11 Occidental College Transcripts
12 Parent’s marriage Certificate
13 Record of baptism
14 Selective Service registration records
(Did Obama Actually Register for Selective Service?
This supposed revelation of 0’s SS records has been debunked here and here.)
15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16 Passport records for all passports
17 Scholarly articles
18 SAT and LSAT test scores
19 Access to his grandmother in Kenya
20 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
21 Punahou grade school records
22 Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.
23 Obama 1964 Divorce Papers - 13 Pages - Missing Pg 11
24 Why isn’t Barack Obama still a member of the Illinois bar and where are all of the relevant documents?
25 Why isn’t Michelle Obama still a member of the Illinois bar, after only about four years of practice, and where are all of the relevant documents?
Anyone who cares about their country would be very concerned that a POTUS had hidden every scrap of information of his life that he possibly could.

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• Barack Hussein Obama’s first and middle names are Arabic Muslim names.
Barack was the name for Mohammad’s horse. Husein, enough said.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700246419/Barack-Muhammads-horse.html
http://sanooaung.wordpress.com/2009/01/22/will-be-obama-with-us-muslims-as-the-meaning-of-his-name-in-persian-language/
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• President Obama’s religious adviser, Eboo Patel, once deemed the United States “the ideal place for the renewal of Islam.”

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/06/-obama-tells-egyptian-foreign-minister-i-am-a-muslim-stealth-coup-on-the-white-house.html

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Obama said the Muslim call to prayer
is “one of the prettiest sounds on earth,”
in an interview with Nicholas Kristof,
published
in The New York Times. Kristof described Obama’s recitation of the Muslim call to prayer,
the Adhan, “with a first-class [Arabic]
accent.”

The opening lines of the Adhan (Azaan) is the Shahada:

“Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that Muhammad is his prophet... “
According to Islamic scholars, reciting the Shahada, the Muslim declaration of faith, makes one a Muslim. This simple yet profound statement expresses a Muslim’s complete acceptance of, and total commitment to, the message of Islam.
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.3413/pub_detail.asp
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/11679
http://jewagainstobama.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/obama-muslim-call-to-prayer-one-of-the-prettiest-sounds-on-earth/
http://caosblog.com/archives/7373

Obama belonged to Rev. Wright’s (a former Muslim) church for twenty years. Many congregants are Muslims.
http://infidelsarecool.com/2008/04/07/jeremiah-wright-former-muslim/
http://infidelsarecool.com/2008/03/20/rev-wright-got-his-masters-degree-in-islam-in-west-africa/
http://endtimes.yuku.com/forum/viewtopic/id/289

• Obama’s said that the U.S. is “one of the largest Muslim countries in the world.”
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyharnden/9959057/Barack_Hussein_Obama_US_one_of_the_largest_Muslim_countries_in_the_world/
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/06/obama_america_one_of_the_large_1.asp

• Obama holds Muslim celebrations in the WH but canceled the National Day of Prayer.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1724544/obama_cancels_national_day_of_prayer.html?cat=9
http://www.exposeobama.com/

• President Obama’s religious adviser, Eboo Patel, once deemed the United States “the ideal place for the renewal of Islam.”
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/06/-obama-tells-egyptian-foreign-minister-i-am-a-muslim-stealth-coup-on-the-white-house.html

• Obama falsely attributes Muslim participation in the founding of America.
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.7041/pub_detail.asp

• Obama required that the cross be covered when he gave a speech at Notre Dame.
http://blog.acton.org/archives/9843-notre-dame-georgetown-and-president-obama.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/05/11/opinion/main5006203.shtml
http://dougpowers.com/2009/04/17/obamas-jesus-coverup/

• Christian symbol covered up during Obama’s Georgetown speech
http://myfaithspace.ning.com/profiles/blogs/obama-covers-christ-and-cross
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=46667

• Obama’s first major speech in office was a “Muslim outreach” speech in Cairo Egypt.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-by-the-President-at-Cairo-University-6-04-09/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8083171.stm

Obama gave strong support to the Cordoba House community center and mosque to be built at the Ground Zero site of Sep. 11, 2001 at a dinner celebrating the day’s end of the first day of Ramadan at the WH.
http://www.aolnews.com/surge-desk/article/president-obama-supports-ground-zero-mosque/19593492?ncid=webmail

• Obama tasked NASA with a mission of “Muslim outreach.”
http://technology.newsplurk.com/2010/07/nasa-and-islam.html
• Obama referred to his faith as “my Muslim faith” gaffe in an interview with George Stephanopolous.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQqIpdBOg6I

• Pushes Islamic freedom of religion but not Jewish or Christian freedoms. Several weeks ago he told Israel NOT to build settlements in East Jerusalem. But OK to build that Mosque at Ground Zero.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/7514285/Israel-spits-in-Obamas-eye-by-announcing-new-settlements-in-east-Jerusalem.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/24/barack-obama-israel-settlement-plan
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More evidence that Obama is a Muslim from his own speeches (video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY

• The FIRST thing Obama did as a newly elected Illinois State Senator was to attempt to declare a Muslim holiday. Obama sponsored Bill SR0110 in the 90th General Assembly to declare November 1, 1997 to be Islamic Community Center Day. It did not pass.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet90/summary/900SR0110.html
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet90/srgroups/sr/900SR0110LV.html
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Obama appoints Muslims to key security
posts:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/134466

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Foreign Minister Ahmed Abul Gheit said
he had a one-on-one meeting with Obama,
where Obama told him that
He was still a Muslim,
and that he was sympathetic towards
the Muslim agenda.
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/76/647/Egyptian_minister:_Obama_told_me_he_is_a_Muslim.html

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Little known facts about Obama:
In 2001, Obama sponsored Illinois Senate Bill 750 creating the “Halal Food Act,” providing for inspections by the Department of Agriculture to ensure that all food labeled Halal is prepared according to Islamic law. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet92/summary/920SB0750.html
This act plays into Islamization. Here’s how it works and how Halal food plays a role:
“From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.
They will push for the introduction of halaal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply
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WHAT DO YOU THINk HE IS????

It’s a word for me. LOL.

Agreed.

I believe The Lord will be raising some such up . . . if there are some men willing to be so raised up and to walk the talk.

When we see such a one raised up we need to pray earnestly for their lifestyle; their walk; their families; their anointing and their safety and provision.

Certainly the TWO WITNESSES for the END TIMES will fill such roles. I pray they are not the only ones by a wide margin. I think God WOULD HAVE many—but will not force folks into such roles, imho.

I thought something similar when I saw Rick Santorum waffle about Obama being a Christian.

Clearly, he is not. Maybe Rick Santorum is afraid to say it for fear of offending and losing votes.

I mean attending a so-called “Christian Church” where the Pastor says “God Damn America”. What more evidence do we need
that he isnt a Christian.

Oh, yeah, he attended for 20 years but didnt know what the Rev. Wright was saying. Yeah, sure.

As you know, no one is going to wade through your cut and paste and links and the collection of everything that we have read over the last five years.

You accept the Muslim answer, that he is Muslim, but the Christian answer is like Franklin Grahams, we can question, and want to ask questions, but we don’t know.