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1 posted on 02/20/2012 6:31:11 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Paul called it a “losing position”

What ever Paul says,
What ever Paul does,
Where ever Paul is standing...

is a “Loosing Position”.


2 posted on 02/20/2012 6:35:35 PM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: SeekAndFind

Then why did he vote against the bill which would prohibit transportation of minors across state lines for the purpose of abortions without parental consent.


3 posted on 02/20/2012 6:40:10 PM PST by svcw (Only difference between Romney & BH is one thinks he will be god & other one thinks he already is.)
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Ron Paul : Social issues are a loser in the election
4 posted on 02/20/2012 6:43:05 PM PST by svcw (Only difference between Romney & BH is one thinks he will be god & other one thinks he already is.)
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To: SeekAndFind

does he think the GOP will win without the social conservative vote?


5 posted on 02/20/2012 6:44:42 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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Paulbots will try to spin Paul's statement as backing states' rights over federal mandates.

That's just damage control. The fact is that Paul hates social conservatism.

6 posted on 02/20/2012 6:44:42 PM PST by fwdude
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To: SeekAndFind

Ron Paul should be personally well versed in what it takes to be a (perennial) loser.


11 posted on 02/20/2012 6:58:55 PM PST by Ron H.
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Ron Paul 2012: Because the Constitution doesn’t say that twelve-year-olds can’t become prostitutes.


12 posted on 02/20/2012 7:01:28 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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So Cons, as defined by many, are two legs of a three-legged conservative stool. I am socially conservative in that I think abortion is a form of murder, and I think we have a moral obligation to halt and turn back the social trending toward open homosexuality; I believe embrace of homosexuality in a culture is a symptom of decadence and evil influence.

But I AM EQUALLY PASSIONATE in my rejection of goverment meddling and intrusion on personal freedoms. I think there are a lot of Americans like that. They want the freedom to behave morally and they want liberty from oppressive, punitive government.

Where do I fit in the "conservative" picture? I hate oppressive punitive government as much as I hate abortion and the gay agenda. The way I see it, we're NEVER going to resolve those social issues until we restore limited government. Think about all the social decay in our America --
- abortion, Roe v Wade...
- open homosexuality in our churches, our schools, our military, our workplaces, our civic groups, and our communities......
- a slothful, avaricious population that lives off of Government charity, from food stamps to welfare...

...... THIS MALAISE that we Social Conservatives passionately reject, has been created, fed, and grown by our oppressive, punitive Federal government.

Because that government is punitive, we are HANDCUFFED and unable to lawfully, peacefully reject open homosexuality in our societies, workplaces, clubs, schools, etc. We are forced to standby as abortion is made accessible and legal on demand. We are PREVENTED from having any say over how our charity is distributed, and CHARITYY is a major and crucial part of Christian morality. Our oppressive government has removed charity from us as a tool.

Our oppressive, punitive government has been a MAJOR cause of the social ills we so passionately reject.

America needs a Republican president who is as outspoken and dedicated to the cause of dismantling oppressive, punitive government, as he is to shunning abortion and the gay agenda.

A president who moralizes can only moralize. A president who sets to work with the stated goal of dismantling oppressive government, including activist judges, is the one who will help restore morality to the U.S.

Godspeed Newt Gingrich.

14 posted on 02/20/2012 7:16:55 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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I love Ron Paul and until recently I supported him on this forum. I did so, not because I thought he could/would win but because I thought he feared God, loved the truth and hated covetousness. However, he lost me because he said, as an OB, he would pump estrogen into a rape victim to kill the baby. (not his words but his meaning). Where is the fear? Where is the truth?

Of all people, Ron Paul should not care about whether "social issues" (false trichotomy) are a "winning issue". The truth is the only thing that matters. Santorum has made many mistakes that trouble me. He has supported a lot of indefensible spending and I'm not sure he hates covetousness as much as Ron Paul, but I don't think he could kill a baby.

16 posted on 02/20/2012 7:39:23 PM PST by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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The man has no true conception of God-given, unalienable rights.


19 posted on 02/20/2012 8:12:23 PM PST by EternalVigilance (We still hold these truths to be self-evident...)
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“Social issues were nonexistent in the period 1932 to 1964. … The Republican Party won two presidential elections out of nine, and they had the Congress for all of four years in that entire period."

What is this?

Did the author forget that we had the last half of the Great Depression and WWII in that timeframe?

21 posted on 02/20/2012 9:03:49 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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“Social issues were nonexistent in the period 1932 to 1964. …

That's because there was a fundamental social consensus until 1964. There were no serious "social issues." Then the pill hit, and the sexual revolution began.

24 posted on 02/20/2012 9:12:47 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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