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Ron Paul: Social issues are a loser in the election (watch Video)
Hotair ^ | 02/20/2012 | ED MORRISSEY

Posted on 02/20/2012 6:31:00 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 02/20/2012 6:31:11 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Paul called it a “losing position”

What ever Paul says,
What ever Paul does,
Where ever Paul is standing...

is a “Loosing Position”.


2 posted on 02/20/2012 6:35:35 PM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: SeekAndFind

Then why did he vote against the bill which would prohibit transportation of minors across state lines for the purpose of abortions without parental consent.


3 posted on 02/20/2012 6:40:10 PM PST by svcw (Only difference between Romney & BH is one thinks he will be god & other one thinks he already is.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Ron Paul : Social issues are a loser in the election
4 posted on 02/20/2012 6:43:05 PM PST by svcw (Only difference between Romney & BH is one thinks he will be god & other one thinks he already is.)
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To: SeekAndFind

does he think the GOP will win without the social conservative vote?


5 posted on 02/20/2012 6:44:42 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: SeekAndFind
Paulbots will try to spin Paul's statement as backing states' rights over federal mandates.

That's just damage control. The fact is that Paul hates social conservatism.

6 posted on 02/20/2012 6:44:42 PM PST by fwdude
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To: LtKerst

Maybe so, but he’s right on this one. Santorum is too easily drawn into these religious/social discussions and it’s going to kill us if he’s our candidate. The other candidates have the sense to call this crap for what it is—media manipulation. But Santorum takes the bait. The Obama media would love for nothing more than to turn this into a birth control/women in the workplace/church and state election to deflect from Obama’s disasterous economic policies. Paul may be a nut, but he’s right on this one.


7 posted on 02/20/2012 6:46:47 PM PST by MissesBush (Raising taxes on an economy in a death spiral is like taking up smoking when you have emphysema)
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Avoiding So-Con issues like Dr. Nutjob suggests WILL KILL OUR CHANCES.


8 posted on 02/20/2012 6:50:42 PM PST by CainConservative (Santorum/Huck 2012 w/ Newt, Cain, Palin, Bach, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Petraeus in the Cabinet)
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To: LtKerst

Paul called it a “losing position”

What ever Paul says,
What ever Paul does,
Where ever Paul is standing...

is a “Loosing Position”.
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Can’t top that post....nuff said.


9 posted on 02/20/2012 6:55:16 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: MissesBush
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Agree with you as well ... these are "States Rights" issues ...


However, Ricky Santorum's "boyish" Youth betrays him as he consistently falls into MSM question-traps ...

In addition, Ricky's knowledge of BOTH American History and the Constitution leave him "severely" handicapped to respond ...

Of course ... you know where I'm headed with this ...

"Newt Gingrich" ...



Newt Gingrich plays Grand-Master "chess" with these questions ... compared to most Anyone else ...

and that includes playing several moves ahead ...

Newt will eventually get Obama so confused and twisted on national television ... the MSM will probably SCREAM and refer to it as a "high tech lynching" ...




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10 posted on 02/20/2012 6:56:14 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin in 2012 !)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ron Paul should be personally well versed in what it takes to be a (perennial) loser.


11 posted on 02/20/2012 6:58:55 PM PST by Ron H.
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Ron Paul 2012: Because the Constitution doesn’t say that twelve-year-olds can’t become prostitutes.


12 posted on 02/20/2012 7:01:28 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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RE: Ron Paul 2012: Because the Constitution doesn’t say that twelve-year-olds can’t become prostitutes

Now that would not characterize his position. He would argue that it would be a STATES ISSUE because he trust the states to handle this situation better than the Federal government.


13 posted on 02/20/2012 7:11:33 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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So Cons, as defined by many, are two legs of a three-legged conservative stool. I am socially conservative in that I think abortion is a form of murder, and I think we have a moral obligation to halt and turn back the social trending toward open homosexuality; I believe embrace of homosexuality in a culture is a symptom of decadence and evil influence.

But I AM EQUALLY PASSIONATE in my rejection of goverment meddling and intrusion on personal freedoms. I think there are a lot of Americans like that. They want the freedom to behave morally and they want liberty from oppressive, punitive government.

Where do I fit in the "conservative" picture? I hate oppressive punitive government as much as I hate abortion and the gay agenda. The way I see it, we're NEVER going to resolve those social issues until we restore limited government. Think about all the social decay in our America --
- abortion, Roe v Wade...
- open homosexuality in our churches, our schools, our military, our workplaces, our civic groups, and our communities......
- a slothful, avaricious population that lives off of Government charity, from food stamps to welfare...

...... THIS MALAISE that we Social Conservatives passionately reject, has been created, fed, and grown by our oppressive, punitive Federal government.

Because that government is punitive, we are HANDCUFFED and unable to lawfully, peacefully reject open homosexuality in our societies, workplaces, clubs, schools, etc. We are forced to standby as abortion is made accessible and legal on demand. We are PREVENTED from having any say over how our charity is distributed, and CHARITYY is a major and crucial part of Christian morality. Our oppressive government has removed charity from us as a tool.

Our oppressive, punitive government has been a MAJOR cause of the social ills we so passionately reject.

America needs a Republican president who is as outspoken and dedicated to the cause of dismantling oppressive, punitive government, as he is to shunning abortion and the gay agenda.

A president who moralizes can only moralize. A president who sets to work with the stated goal of dismantling oppressive government, including activist judges, is the one who will help restore morality to the U.S.

Godspeed Newt Gingrich.

14 posted on 02/20/2012 7:16:55 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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Newt will eventually get Obama so confused and twisted on national television ... the MSM will probably SCREAM and refer to it as a "high tech lynching" ...

From your keyboard to God's eyes!

Godspeed Newt.

15 posted on 02/20/2012 7:22:29 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: SeekAndFind
I love Ron Paul and until recently I supported him on this forum. I did so, not because I thought he could/would win but because I thought he feared God, loved the truth and hated covetousness. However, he lost me because he said, as an OB, he would pump estrogen into a rape victim to kill the baby. (not his words but his meaning). Where is the fear? Where is the truth?

Of all people, Ron Paul should not care about whether "social issues" (false trichotomy) are a "winning issue". The truth is the only thing that matters. Santorum has made many mistakes that trouble me. He has supported a lot of indefensible spending and I'm not sure he hates covetousness as much as Ron Paul, but I don't think he could kill a baby.

16 posted on 02/20/2012 7:39:23 PM PST by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

If Newt is the nominee, Obama will find an excuse not to debate. Mr. Gingrich needs to show that he can win / rise in the polls on other strengths besides debating.


17 posted on 02/20/2012 7:40:46 PM PST by Ingtar ("But it is hard to maintain an aura of invincibility after you have been vinced..." Sowell)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

If Newt is the nominee, Obama will find an excuse not to debate. Mr. Gingrich needs to show that he can win / rise in the polls on other strengths besides debating.


18 posted on 02/20/2012 7:44:59 PM PST by Ingtar ("But it is hard to maintain an aura of invincibility after you have been vinced..." Sowell)
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To: SeekAndFind

The man has no true conception of God-given, unalienable rights.


19 posted on 02/20/2012 8:12:23 PM PST by EternalVigilance (We still hold these truths to be self-evident...)
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Back on Dec. 19, Paul signed the “Personhood Pledge” published by PersonhoodUSA. This pledge says in part: “I stand with President Ronald Reagan in supporting ‘the unalienable personhood of every American, from the moment of conception until natural death,’ and with the Republican Party platform in affirming that I ‘support a human life amendment to the Constitution, and endorse legislation to make clear that the 14th Amendment protections apply to unborn children.”

Obviously Ron Paul doesn't see that as a state's rights issue.

20 posted on 02/20/2012 8:40:16 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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