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To: aruanan; Marguerite; onyx; b9; true believer forever; caww
Typical of so many Europeans, Marguerite let slip that in Nederland the authority of the current state was derived from the authority of the last state, and that came from the DIVINE RIGHT OF KINGS.

That is, their governments have all the power in the world to do whatever they wish at any time to anybody.

They simply do not read our rules in the sense that WE RESTRICT THE POWER OF THE STATE FIRST.

The Bill of Rights is a limitation on government, not individuals. The "religious test" clause is a restriction on the state, not private individuals, or people running for office, or even officers of state acting as individuals.

One of the errors made at the end of WWII was we did not FORCE all the European states we'd liberated to adopt a Bill of Rights before we cut them free of occupation.

Next time we'll fix that problem ~ in the meantime we just have to be patient with these people who not only don't understand our Constitution, they can't understand it. Europeans have no frame of reference for understanding it in fact!

210 posted on 02/21/2012 11:15:24 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
As I said elsewhere with respect to health care:
Some health professionals seem to believe that the government should sponsor their efforts to counter the self-interested efforts of others (nutrition and diet quacks for example) because they are right and the others are wrong, because they are altruistic and the others are not. It may be true that they are factually correct and genuinely altruistic, and that what they wish to do will have a beneficial effect on many people, but it doesn’t follow necessarily that the government should fund them.

This is a manifestation of a widespread phenomenon brought about by the advent of the secularized state. Instead of viewing the state as a limited means to a limited end, the tendency has been to imbue it, a temporal entity, with the attributes of a transcendent final judgment in which all injustices and inequalities are finally rectified. In this way, the secular state has been categorically, though not personally, deified and expected to act accordingly (something of a diffuse divine right of kings).

This is seen in those who believe the necessary response to a social ill is the passage of a law, especially a federal law, and the enactment of a program, especially one that they can devise and administrate (and that not necessarily for cynical reasons). Those who feel they are on the side of right, certain they aren’t acting against society’s interest, often appeal to the State to aid them in their struggle against evil. Since the spirit of the secular state is money and power, they ask to be endowed accordingly. It’s pathetically naive and dangerous.

211 posted on 02/21/2012 12:23:48 PM PST by aruanan
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