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"tithing sunday" falls conveniently within tax time, you bring your w2 to the bishop, he calculates ten percent, and asks you how you wish to pay...and you know what happens if you don’t

I'll touch just one. What you are calling "tithing sunday" is actually called "tithing settlement." Yes, you do meet with the bishop to declare your status (i.e. if you have paid a "full" tithing). Only this happens in December, not tax time. You don't bring your w2 because you haven't even received it yet. And you are the one that claims if you are a full tith payer or not - not the bishop. He just marks down what you say. (I am sure if the number seems off, the bishop would ask you about it). And most folks have been paying though out the year, so there isn't any "how do you wish to pay" going on.

Any bishop who does what you are describing is an aberration.

And nice unstated, but implied, threat at the end.

Are these people actually accusing Mormons of having to bring w2’s to tithing settlement?

I would assume that even former members would know that that occurs in November or December before w2’s are even issued.

Something smells funny.

My uncle a former bishop asked for proof of income, his reasoning how do we reconcile the books, and how does the member prove they are tithing 10%.
A family friend does show W2 from the previous year and they are billed monthly for their “tithe”.
My cousin has some one come to his house demanding his tithe, the figure is based on the last year he tithed and some sort of percent increase. (He has been trying to get his names off the rolls for more than a decade.)

" I'll touch just one. What you are calling "tithing sunday" is actually called "tithing settlement." Yes, you do meet with the bishop to declare your status (i.e. if you have paid a "full" tithing). Only this happens in December, not tax time. You don't bring your w2 because you haven't even received it yet. And you are the one that claims if you are a full tith payer or not - not the bishop. He just marks down what you say. (I am sure if the number seems off, the bishop would ask you about it). And most folks have been paying though out the year, so there isn't any "how do you wish to pay" going on. Any bishop who does what you are describing is an aberration. "

congratulations...i didn't remember the name right

i also forgot there even were fast offerings...thats a freebie just for you

but i remember people bringing documentation because they were required to and i dont care what you say

youre the typical mormon and thats what i want everyone to see

your 'testimony' on this board reveals the truth behind every mormon facade to the uninitiated better than anything -i- could have said

they wont fall for the lds happy family meat grinder thanks to you

so you celebrate your victory and ill celebrate mine

if any part of my life in your p t barnum cult has faded from my memory since 1979 then i thank my ever loving GOD for it and beg Him to finish the job

that is my testimony Amen

And nice unstated, but implied, threat at the end.

Yeah; you find those now and then...

Media Letter

26 June 2008 — Salt Lake City (http://newsroom.lds.org/additional-resource/media-letter)

*The following is a letter from Elder Lance B. Wickman, General Counsel of the Church to publishers of major newspapers, TV stations and magazines. It was sent out on Tuesday, June 24, 2008.

Recent events have focused the media spotlight on a polygamous sect near San Angelo, Texas, calling itself the “Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.” As you probably know, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has absolutely no affiliation with this polygamous sect. Decades ago, the founders of that sect rejected the doctrines of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, were excommunicated, and then started their own religion. To the best of our knowledge, no one at the Texas compound has ever been a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Unfortunately, however, some of the media coverage of the recent events in Texas has caused members of the public to confuse the doctrines and members of that group and our church. We have received numerous inquiries from confused members of the public who, by listening to less than careful media reports, have come to a grave misunderstanding about our respective doctrines and faith. Based on these media reports many have erroneously concluded that there is some affiliation between the two – or even worse, that they are one and the same.

Over the years, in a careful effort to distinguish itself, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has gone to significant lengths to protect its rights in the name of the church and related matters. Specifically, we have obtained registrations for the name “The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,” “Mormon,” “Book of Mormon” and related trade and service marks from the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office and corresponding agencies in a significant number of foreign countries.

We are confident that you are committed to avoiding misleading statements that cause unwarranted confusion and that may disparage or infringe the intellectual property rights discussed above. Accordingly, we respectfully request the following:

As reflected in the AP Style Guide, we ask that you and your organization refrain from referring to members of that polygamous sect as “fundamentalist Mormons” or “fundamentalist” members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
We ask that, when reporting about this Texas-based polygamous sect or any other polygamous group, you avoid either explicitly or implicitly any inference that these groups are affiliated with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
On those occasions when it may be necessary in your reporting to refer to the historical practice of plural marriage in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, that you make very clear that the Church does not condone the practice of polygamy and that it has been forbidden in the Church for over one hundred years. Moreover, we absolutely condemn arranged or forced “marriages” of underage girls to anyone under any circumstances.

Stated simply, we would like to be known and recognized for whom we are and what we believe, and not be inaccurately associated with beliefs and practices that we condemn in the strongest terms. We would be grateful if you could circulate or copy this letter to your editorial staff and to your legal counsel.

We thank you for your consideration of these important matters.

Sincerely,

Lance B. Wickman

General Counsel

And nice unstated, but implied, threat at the end.

Yeah; you find those now and then...

even at the beginning

"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;

and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,

and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.

Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)

"Any bishop who does what you are describing is an aberration."

The funny thing here is that the mormons like to hold up their "lay" leaders as an example of how much they love the church.

The reality is, that mormons are exposed to or subjected to whatever whimisical or deceptive practices said bishops decide to employ. Why? No formal training, just a green handbook of instructions to read through.

Pay stubs are just as effective in determining how much a person is making throughout the year, it doesn't have to be a W2.

The members of the "church" are open to so much abuse and misinterpretation due to their lay "clergy", that to describe one who does as an "aberration" is questionable at best.