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I found one article that exposed 75%-90% of CA church farm production is sold to premium market and yet is tax exempt...but it was written in '87...you know the response i would have gotten from that

official sources are mumshut about church welfare...

another article showing a peanut butter plant that sells all its production to public pantries for 90c a jar, the author made it sound like they were bill gates philanthropists at the same time asking people (not just morg) to go there and volunteer a few hrs...i have to wonder, even with a jar of pnut butter that cheap, nonprofit plant + free labor + peanuts grown on their own farms by their volunteer morgs...it just isn't in their nature to give things away breaking even maybe

you know lds are doing free charity for gentiles if they wear ugly yellow shirts with lds in red letters and one out of five has a video camera to document...to make the most of a pr moment...none of the pics showed yellow shirts so maybe they're making a dime

one bit of fresh news they are closing many of the small canneries in slc because a new mechanized one is taking over...less volunteerism and more profit

anyone whos a mormon know deseret industries is the morg welfare arm and deseret industries is what is printed on the cans of food they hawk for morgs home food storage (at least 1yr recommended 2)...even if you have a savalot next door they press you to buy the mormon stuff...some of the dehyfrated good last 30yrs so it is good quality for shtf...but things like canned vegs and flour, grain (grinding your own flour is a big thing) you can buy these at sams club...but you're not supporting the lds that way

anyone who grew up mormon knows deseret ind. is the slc welfare and also the source of these long term storage food you are supposed to buy, so a statement that the church welfare doesn't sell more food than it gives away is kinda prevaricating from the beginning...no surprise

an example of the same closed circle is the church traditional fundraiser called 'dime a dip dinners' (these days they're probably quarter a dip) they ask members to bring 2 covered dishes to the dinner, the put all the dises on a table and you pay a dime (.25c now?) a spoonful and fix your plate...you buy the food, fix it, bring it, and pay to eat...closed system

they are fun and a chance to eat other folks cooking but you see what im driving at kind of a pattern

being raised in the church all i knew was mormonism i remember asking a church leader what being 'born again' meant...he said so help me that it was a cult belief...!...and when i got out i didnt want -anything- to do with religion, and in a conversation someone proselytizing said to me that God gave salvation as a free gift if you wanted it...totally alien to my experience and i thought ah, this must be the 'cult' he was talking about

God got me in the door, it might be the back door but thats where the kitchen is...peace~A.~

I posted up thread, an expose done in GB about the LDS “charities” and how little actually goes to the “charities”. The laws in GB concerning “non-profits” are quite different, so it was pretty enlightening to see. If that amount of fraud is going on in GB, I can only imagine the scale here. It’s pretty damning.

Funny story (I think), while I was an active mormon, my wife was starting to get into food storage and the like through deseret. She was going to go and “volunteer” to prep and can like many good mormons do.

Asked me how much grain and flour to bring back. I asked her what she intended to do with it if she bought it. She looked at me funny for a minute, thought about it and said “make bread”. I replied “how?”. She doesn’t bake bread unless it’s already frozen or in a blue can, forget about mixing, kneading, etc. all of the ingredients needed for baking bread.

Needless to say, she didn’t bring any of it home. I just don’t know that many folks really put much thought (reason) into what they’re being told to do (faith) by the church.

The faith over reason dilemma is a tough one for many of us ex-mo’s with active family members to contend with.

I never heard of the “dime a dip” dinners. At all of the church functions I attended, main courses and sides were few. A lot of bread and sweets, but not much in the way of real food.

Interesting...

I got this E-MAIL last Friday night:

Hello Everyone,

I apologize for the very short notice, but I wanted to let you all know that there is going to be a gathering tomorrow after church to welcome back Pastor *** from Mozambique.

This is pretty informal, just a time to visit with *** and share some lunch. I am asking that if you can, to please bring something to share.

So far, pulled pork and sloppy joes are being provided for sandwiches, as well as various sides and desserts, such as mac and cheese, chips, potato salad, cookies, and a pie.

Any sides, desserts, or drinks you could bring would be great (vegetables, potatoes, pies, cakes, cookies, soft drinks, etc.)

You don't really need to respond back to this, just bring something if you can, or even if you can't please join us to welcome back Pastor ***.

Like I said, this is pretty informal. If you have any questions, feel free to call me at 989-5555. Thanks!

Arnold