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Police in Arizona Shoot Man Holding 9-Month Old Baby
Salem News ^ | Feb 16, 2012 | Tim King Salem

Posted on 02/17/2012 10:09:38 AM PST by An American!

(SCOTTSDALE, AZ) - An unarmed Arizona grandfather was blasted in the head this week by a police officer who killed the man because he "thought" he had a weapon. This was the particular officer's sixth fatal shooting in the line of duty, it happened Tuesday night in Scottsdale, "There were at least three officers in position to engage the suspect. At least one of the officers thought he saw something in the suspect's hands," Scottsdale Police Sgt. Mark Clark told Arizona's KPNX.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: airsoft; banglist; cops; leo; murder; police
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To: donna
“You are getting your information from a corrupted media”

That simply is not true,but you are entitled to your own opinion.

101 posted on 02/17/2012 5:21:56 PM PST by hwkbeer
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To: hwkbeer

You’re vouching for the media?

Do you have any links to the stats and studies that prove there is an increase in police brutality? I’d like to see the evidence upon which you are basing your claims.

As for this particular cop - what if he’s a good man doing a good job? Are you willing to ruin his career and life just to trash cops in general?


102 posted on 02/17/2012 5:50:51 PM PST by donna (I want to live in a Judeo/Christian country where we know that, before God, men & women are equal.)
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To: donna
I'm speaking from personal experience and in no way am I trashing all cops in general.

I know for a fact there are lots of good people serving as officers,I've met many in my life.

However I've had experience and seen people serving as officers who in no way should have the power of a badge and gun.

The media as you say is overrun by leftists and I do not trust them one bit.

You seem more and more to have an agenda on this issue,I have to assume you are an officer,married to one or have one in your family.That's good that you support good officers but there is always bad apples and it appears you wish to sweep that aspect under the carpet to protect someone.

As I said before you are entitled to your own opinion,the 1st amendment still applies,for today that is.

103 posted on 02/17/2012 6:19:55 PM PST by hwkbeer
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To: jim_trent
Real good idea that when a guy has a baby or child in his arms there's a very good chance you will shoot the baby, or somebody else in the neighborhood that you just don't see.

This was quite obviously a residential situation ~ and absent actual gunfire earlier there's little justification for shooting up the place.

In the end the man did not have a gun. Somebody lied about that. FRY HIM!

104 posted on 02/17/2012 8:07:53 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: hwkbeer

I have no cop connections at all.

I have stated my reasons for objecting to your unfair attack on a cop who is innocent until proven guilty.

You been challenged to support your claims, and you cannot.

You’ve been blowing smoke.


105 posted on 02/17/2012 9:03:39 PM PST by donna (I want to live in a Judeo/Christian country where we know that, before God, men & women are equal.)
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To: JimRed

Worked near Ocean City for 35 years. Great with the wind but a beatch going the other way.( getting older every day )


106 posted on 02/18/2012 4:24:28 AM PST by Renegade
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To: An American!

Policeman like our Military are expected to face danger each day with their hands tied behind them - i.e., do nothing until fired upon then fire back if you are still alive.


107 posted on 02/18/2012 4:40:59 AM PST by yoe
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To: Hodar

Good description


108 posted on 02/18/2012 4:42:14 AM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: donna
I offered regrets for commenting on an article with scant info.You and I agree the media is not to be trusted yet you bait me to use the media to somehow prove a point of which the media,in my personal experience was not involved.I have stated over and over that I know of very good people serving as officers as well as bad apples that I'm sure sane people would agree is true.You've proved yourself to be just argumentative on this subject.

I refuse to argue with fence posts,so have a wonderful day.

109 posted on 02/18/2012 5:01:52 AM PST by hwkbeer
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To: donna
Hey, that's a legal presumption for purposes of a trial. Fact is the cop shot the man who was holding a baby. The cop admits it. The other cops admit it. Other witnesses saw it.

There is absolutely no doubt who shot the man.

110 posted on 02/18/2012 5:23:01 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: An American!

glad the rest of the story was posted about the hand gun and the shotgun. This guy did have a problem and looks like he used the kid as a shield to terrorize people


111 posted on 02/18/2012 9:45:07 AM PST by Tubac414 (Just want to ride my Motorcycle)
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To: muawiyah

Why are you pretending that is at issue?

What should cops do when they know a man is carrying a gun and a baby around the neighborhood and he refuses to obey the police once they arrive?

Do cops, and normal people, think he was reaching for a gun by the door, or even going in the house to hold the baby hostage?

We must respect the cop’s decision until we have proof that he did something wrong. If we can’t do that, then we should not send cops to resolve these problems.

Threads on FR hating this cop and all cops denigrates FR. It is not conservative behavior.


112 posted on 02/18/2012 10:27:39 AM PST by donna (I want to live in a Judeo/Christian country where we know that, before God, men & women are equal.)
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To: donna
The man didn't have a gun in his hand. He was in his own front yard.

Sounds like he was killed by the neighbors eh~just call in the cops and they'll shoot anybody you say has a gun.

113 posted on 02/18/2012 10:54:20 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

You are avoiding the crunch:

Do you let him reenter the home with the baby?


114 posted on 02/18/2012 11:45:28 AM PST by donna (I want to live in a Judeo/Christian country where we know that, before God, men & women are equal.)
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To: donna
Do we perhaps, instead, let him re-enter his own home with his grandchil ~ or, maybe, perhaps, we let him stand there in his own front yard with his grandchil ~ or, maybe we ask him some questions, or seek his compliance, ~ or maybe we instruct our well-practiced sniper to just blow a hole in his head.

Yeah, we blow a hole in his head ~

You got a picture of him with a gun in his hand, or is that a baby?

Did you know that in the last 35 years Fairfax County VA, which has had half a mil to a million people, has not had 7 instances of need for a sniper. This place has a WELL PRACTICED sniper. In proportion to the population........

....... to the population, I'd have to say it's a third-world hellhole.

Just guessing that you live there.

115 posted on 02/18/2012 2:51:46 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: jim_trent
The Prostrollo family is hopping mad.

I see a couple ~ maybe three lawsuits the city is going to lose over this ~ and Peters probably ought to move out of that community and go somewhere else ~ NOT HERE THOUGH. We don't need his kind.

116 posted on 02/18/2012 2:59:06 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

You failed the crunch decision, LOL. I guess you let the crazy man, who is carrying a baby, go back into his house.

Then let’s tell the police to not respond to such 911 calls.


117 posted on 02/18/2012 4:26:54 PM PST by donna (I want to live in a Judeo/Christian country where we know that, before God, men & women are equal.)
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To: donna
You failed in not reading the part (in two stories) where the cops appear to be unaware he's carrying a baby ~

Only value I can see in this is that if you live in a tough neighborhood and get too out of hand the cops, there, will be happy to send someone out to kill you without further question.

So, instead of "dropping a dime" on somebody now we get "dropping a nine one one".

118 posted on 02/18/2012 4:52:40 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: An American!
"I don't think he's going after innocent citizens, however, if you find yourself in a precarious situation, he seems to err on the side of escalating the violence."

That's safe to say.

119 posted on 02/18/2012 5:06:56 PM PST by TankerKC (Welcome to the age of "I Meant to Do That" Diplomacy)
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To: pingman
How’s the family dog?

You have to ask? Hell, they rubbed him out first thing.

120 posted on 03/28/2012 7:49:53 PM PDT by OldPossum
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