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Five Reasons to Oppose Gay Marriage
Townhall.com ^ | February 17, 2012 | John Hawkins

Posted on 02/17/2012 4:43:39 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

Homosexuality is just having someone else help you masturbate. Homosexuals are the most self-absorbed, self-serving and self-centered people in the world. An empty, short life.


21 posted on 02/17/2012 5:52:24 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Kaslin

“The religious content has to be taken out and marriage has to become just one more reason to file paperwork with the government.”

This is why so many accept the premise of “gay marriage” in the first place. Many have been conditioned over the last 100+ years to think the institution is simply a collection of benefits and strictures that can be taken away and resumed as long as the state says it is OK. A recent poll has 40% of folks thinking marriage comes from man and thus the state. So gay marriage is possible because the state says it is possible, as the state defines marriage, at least for many.

It was always a danger, at least in modern times, as the state’s definition is simply going to be whatever judges, pols, or the majority think it is at the time. But there are some faiths whose definition is never going to change, as they recognize they don’t have the authority to change it. It’s just a shame the state has the power to punish if one disagrees with its ever devolving take on the institution.

FReegards


22 posted on 02/17/2012 5:56:01 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: Kaslin

A marriage is a union between a man and a woman. You would have to redefine marriage.

It would be like changing the definition of “African American” to include white people so whites could get contracts geared towards the African American community.


23 posted on 02/17/2012 5:56:01 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: Kaslin

Mine too but sadly, I think we’re in the minority. Everything is acceptable today.


24 posted on 02/17/2012 5:59:50 AM PST by FES0844
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To: Logic n' Reason
There was a piece posted on FR some time back The Secular Case Against Gay Marriage that was interesting.

The author's basic premise was : Homosexual relationships do nothing to serve the state interest of propogating society, so there is no reason to grant them the costly benefits of marriage.
25 posted on 02/17/2012 6:00:56 AM PST by Girlene
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To: Kaslin

I oppose it because, It isn’t right, says so in my Bible. Also they cannot reproduce only recruit.


26 posted on 02/17/2012 6:03:03 AM PST by JamesA (You don't have to be big to stand tall)
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To: MrB
>>rather than just guess

No need to guess, His orderly handiwork is self-evident at every level of Creation.

For example, the quantum-mechanichal cosmological model observes that one moment the universe was not, and the next, all the energy in it was.

Aka: “Let there be light”.

And BTW, Quantum Mechanics, especially QED, is a fundamental part of the science that produced the engineering that produced the technology... that allows the photons to fly off the screen you're reading this on.

But then, any fool can see that.

27 posted on 02/17/2012 6:14:40 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Logic n' Reason

Your premise is unworkable. Once you take G-d out of the equasion, why isn’t it okay to commit murder? Why isn’t incest okay too? Why shouldn’t you be able to commit perjury with no fear of punishment? Why shouldn’t you be able to go into your neighbor’s house and take his big screen TV? Why not bed your pet goat?
Every single law we have is based on the admonitions in the Bible and without it, how do you define morality? How do you differentiate between man and beast?
YOU think you are being logical, but what you are really doing is wiping out the very underpinnings of civilization itself.

Leviticcus
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And thou shalt not give any of thy seed to set them apart to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy G-d: I am HaShem.
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Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind; it is abomination.
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And thou shalt not lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith; neither shall any woman stand before a beast, to lie down thereto; it is perversion.
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Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things; for in all these the nations are defiled, which I cast out from before you.
25
And the land was defiled, therefore I did visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land vomited out her inhabitants.
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Ye therefore shall keep My statutes and Mine ordinances, and shall not do any of these abominations; neither the home-born, nor the stranger that sojourneth among you—
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for all these abominations have the men of the land done, that were before you, and the land is defiled—
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that the land vomit not you out also, when ye defile it, as it vomited out the nation that was before you.
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For whosoever shall do any of these abominations, even the souls that do them shall be cut off from among their people.
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Therefore shall ye keep My charge, that ye do not any of these abominable customs, which were done before you, and that ye defile not yourselves therein: I am HaShem your G-d.

These Laws have served us well for over 6,000 years. They have raised us above beasts of the jungle and beasts of the field, But YOU would wipe it all out because you are so much smarter than the all the wisdom that civlized us without even realizing that what you propose is the downfall of HUMAN culture and a return to the cave.


28 posted on 02/17/2012 6:14:53 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: FES0844

Not to me,and I don’t think we are in the minority


29 posted on 02/17/2012 6:17:47 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: JamesA
>>Also they cannot reproduce only recruit.


Uhuh. Just like the occult latin-parroting eunuchs running a certain vestigial syncretic remnant of the perverted Roman empire... and those who ran theocratic god-man tyrannies of the Eqyptians and Babylons before them.

Meet the New Boss, same as the Old Ba'al
--The Who?

30 posted on 02/17/2012 6:19:24 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Kaslin

Good on ya -

don’t “concede” the authority of the Bible.
It is the only logical basis for any assertion of right and wrong. All other “bases” are arbitrary, and based on nothing but having your feet firmly planted in mid-air.


31 posted on 02/17/2012 6:25:25 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Kaslin; MestaMachine

oops, wrong post to reply to.
If it applies to Kaslin, all the better, though... :)


32 posted on 02/17/2012 6:26:30 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Logic n' Reason
now give me five good reasons against gay marriage without referring to god, religion, or the bible directly or indirectly.

How about just one? The state has no business telling people who they can and cannot form contractual alliances with. Therefore, the state should divest itself of the marriage business entirely, neither sanctioning nor disapproving it. Its compelling interest is limited to only the legal issues of property, child custody, etc.. So leave it there.

33 posted on 02/17/2012 6:32:09 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: Logic n' Reason
Men having Sex with Men abbreviated = MSM

**********

MSM account for nearly half of the more than one million people living with HIV in the U.S. (48%, or an estimated 532,000 total persons).

MSM account for more than half of all new HIV infections in the U.S. each year (53%, or an estimated 28,700 infections).

While CDC estimates that MSM account for just 4 percent of the U.S. male population aged 13 and older, the rate of new HIV diagnoses among MSM in the U.S. is more than 44 times that of other men (range: 522–989 per 100,000 MSM vs. 12 per 100,000 other men).

MSM are the only risk group in the U.S. in which new HIV infections are increasing. While new infections have declined among both heterosexuals and injection drug users, the annual number of new HIV infections among MSM has been steadily increasing since the early 1990s.

The high prevalence of HIV among gay and bisexual men means MSM face a greater risk of being exposed to infection with each sexual encounter, especially as they get older.

*************

Count one reason... or (5) five... as you wish.

QUOTED: From a CDC Fact sheet published in September 2010

God doesn't hate sin because He is into being a buzzkill.

God hates sin because it is destructive to life as He intended us to enjoy it!

Have a nice day.

34 posted on 02/17/2012 6:32:21 AM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Logic n' Reason

See my response @ #34 above


35 posted on 02/17/2012 6:35:46 AM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Logic n' Reason

Because Gay Marriage is legal in MA. Federal Judge Wolfe ruled that all parental notification and opt out laws are hereby null and void. If you protest them you will be arrested and have the Superintendent of Schools and some city councilors protesting in front of your house. gay Activists can also enter public schools and have access to other people’s children to talk about El Joy de Sex without undergoing a CORI (criminal background check). If you are in Kiwanis and want to participate in the Reading is Fundamental program you do have to have a CORI check. Because we have gay Marriage, adults get to go behind the locked doors of Boston City Hall and attend the BAGLY “Prom” No Press. No Police. No Parents. Allowed.


36 posted on 02/17/2012 6:42:12 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: mnehring

“What happens if by some weird twist of fate, you get some Fred Phelps type person in charge?”

Or a mullah...


37 posted on 02/17/2012 6:46:29 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: massgopguy

Isn’t that always the way it works with the left?

First, they beg for “tolerance” and non-judgementalism. Just let us exist in peace without harassement.

Then, eventually it gets around to using the guns of the state to make you recognize them as superior and forcing your kids to be indoctrinated into their worldview.


38 posted on 02/17/2012 6:47:52 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MestaMachine; blueunicorn6

Big Amen to your post and to post #21


39 posted on 02/17/2012 6:48:34 AM PST by sunny48
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To: IronJack; Logic n' Reason

[The state has no business telling people who they can and cannot form contractual alliances with]

Sort of like the state has no business taxing citizens so the homosexual occultists sucking within its bureaucratic busson can give themselves healthcare benefits with which to pay for medications to treat the diseases rendered as the “due penalty” for their abomination of nature?

That kind of “no business”?

Ok.


40 posted on 02/17/2012 6:50:34 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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