Posted on 02/17/2012 4:43:39 AM PST by Kaslin
1) Gay marriage is incompatible with Christianity (and for that matter, Islam & Judaism). If someone asks you why you oppose gay marriage, the only thing you really have to say to explain it is, "I'm a Christian."
God doesn't condemn anyone for who he is; so if you're attracted to the same sex, that absolutely, unconditionally doesn't make you bad, evil or "un-Christian." On the other hand, let me note that I do consider hating, tormenting, or bullying people because of their sexual orientation to be distinctively "un-Christian" behavior. As Billy Graham has said, “God will not judge a Christian guilty for his or her involuntary feelings.” However, God has drawn a clear line in the sand when it comes to homosexual acts. If you're gay, you're not allowed to act on it. If that seems harsh or unfair to you, well, sorry, but you'll have to take it up with God. It's His rule.
"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is an abomination." -- Leviticus 18:22
The people of Sodom and Gomorrah could tell you how serious God is about that -- if there were any of them left. So as a Christian, you can no more condone gay marriage than you could give the thumbs up to prostitution or wife swapping. That means if you're a Christian standing in favor of gay marriage, then you're a Christian who's standing directly in opposition to the God whom you claim to worship.
2) Gay marriage will end up infringing on religious freedom. The moment gay marriage becomes the law of the land, all sorts of First Amendment freedoms involving the free exercise of people's religion will likely be infringed upon as a consequence. No pastor should be forced to marry a gay couple. No wedding photographer, cake maker, caterer, or wedding planner should be forced to be involved in these weddings. No church or any other location should be forced to be the site of a gay wedding. Children will be taught in schools that gay marriage is normal, legal, and moral -- and it directly contradicts the teachings of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam. To create this special privilege for gay Americans would mean impinging on the First Amendment rights of more than 200 million Americans.
3) Civil unions could confer every "right" that marriage does. Gay marriage is not about "rights;" it's about special privileges. After all, every right conferred upon a couple via marriage could be just as easily conferred on a gay couple via a civil union, which is a compromise that could probably be had if gay activists wanted it. In fact, the biggest objection conservatives have had to civil unions is that there's a fear they'd be used as a stepping stone to gay marriage. So, let's be clear: there are actually no "rights" whatsoever at stake in the push for gay marriage.
Instead, what gay activists are looking for is a special privilege of the worst sort because it's as much about dragging everyone else down as it is about raising everyone up. To accommodate gay marriage, the whole meaning of marriage has to be warped and twisted. The religious content has to be taken out and marriage has to become just one more reason to file paperwork with the government.
So, this isn't really so much about marriage per se as it is an attempt to force society and religion to accept gay unions as every bit as normal and healthy as straight relationships, which will never truly happen. You might be able to intimidate some people into silence with political correctness, but the truth is still there and people know it, even if they don't want to be screamed at and accused of being bigots for pointing out the obvious.
4) Gay marriage may be where it starts, but it wouldn't be where it ends. Once the definition of marriage is arbitrarily transformed to make gay activists happy, there's no chance it's going to stop there. For example, you could make a much better case for polygamy than you can for gay marriage. It has a much more robust historical tradition, it's more consistent with religious values, it produces children -- there simply is no compelling, logical reason why gay marriage should become the law of the land without also granting polygamy the same legal status.
Furthermore, once that door is opened, where does it stop? How about brother and sister? Marrying the dead sound any better? How does man and dog strike you? Adults marrying children? How does marrying a tree or a clay urn hit you?
People get outraged by this sort of comparisons, but this isn't just speculation; these are unions that have occurred in other countries. So, if it has happened somewhere else, you can be sure some wacko will want to do it here, some lawyer will decide marrying your sister is a civil right, and some liberal judge will agree with him. Next thing you know, anyone who opposes it is accused of being George Wallace and trying to stop the progress of civil rights. Sound farfetched? Well, isn't that exactly what happened with gay marriage?
5) Marriage already has enough problems as it is without gay marriage. One of the weirdest arguments in favor of gay marriage goes like so: Marriage is already on the rocks. Look at all the people cheating, look at all the divorces; so why not gay marriage, too?
This is like arguing that someone has already accidentally eaten some rat poison; so why not give him some cyanide to go along with it? When someone's sick, you don't make him sicker, you heal him. If marriage has been tarnished in our society -- and it has -- we should be looking for ways to strengthen marriage, not weaken it.
Sure, if gay marriage were to become legal tomorrow, you wouldn't have legions of people who are already married running off to get divorced. But, gay marriage would further degrade the religious element of marriage, cut down on the "sacredness" of it, and make it less of a special event. That would cause people to put less value on marriage, make them less likely to get married in the first place, and make them more likely to get divorced. This leads to more children being born out of wedlock and kids from single parents are more likely to commit suicide, take drugs, go to jail, drop out of high school, etc., etc. in every category that matters than kids from two parent families. You can already see this starting to play out in Sweden, Norway, and Denmark and you'll see it happen here, too, if gay marriage becomes the law of the land.
“African-american” is a totally stupid phrase. I know and once worked with a white male from Uganda, now a citizen of the U.S. and a full-fledged “African-american.” Labels like that are, besides stupid, self-defeating.
I remember around the mid 2000s. 2005 or 2006, I had analog cable on my kitchen TV and a Saturday Morning I was flipping the channels and came across MTV with what looked like a dating game. It was so strange my curiosity got the best of me, it turns out it was the dating game with all guys. Each guy took his turn with the one guy to try to get his favor. After lots of disgusting prancing around the male winner kisses the male contestant on the mouth. This was on about noon Saturday morning ~ 2006.
Now you wonder why young adults thinks gays are a repressed minority. This is what they were watching as teens.
I watched Jonny Quest as a kid on Saturday morning and there were no fing homos on that show.
We will see how it all shakes out. It ain’t over. And with the inevitable financial collapse, much bitter fruit will wither on the vine without gov money to cram it down our throats. Or gov paid AIDS medicine.
When the SHTF, the stronger and more feral of the libs will quickly act to subjugate the more effeminate in their ranks into slavery. For any number of purposes.
Bank on it.
Because “WE” aren’t going to bow to them in a road warrior scenario... ergo as their numbers dwindle, they get to live the darwinian utopia they so love.
YAY DARWIN!!!
“...elitist politicians in particular, that think they should not be held to the same moral accounting as the people they rule over.”
Forgive the lateness of this reply, but I had to get this in.
One of the most abiding lessons Moses ever taught that unfortunately went unheeded, is that G-d did not create man to be RULED over, but to rule over himself. THAT is true freedom.
We were given guidelines for how to learn to do this, but fear, weakness of spirit, laziness, could not overcome the psychological need to have a ruler. It was EASIER to be told what to do than do the work necessary to just do it.
It was a source of constant frustration for Moses.
It seems we never unlearned how to be slaves in one way or another.
The Founders knew this and in their wisdom, they tried to the best of their ability clarify what makes men free. We still have not learned.
You are on the WRONG website to be spewing this perversion...
How about the inability to reproduce offspring. ZOTTED troll.
2. Hepatitis
3. Costs of covering said diseases for gay "spouses" of entrenched government employees
4. NAMBLA meets adoption "rights" for gay couples
5. Waste of food and oxygen (cannot propagate the species).
Or more simply:
LomanBill
Give me a break. It was not my generation that spent this country into oblivion via entitlements and reckless gov’t spending. Heck we are just out of college. Heck many of us(not I) are still living at home.
[Give me a break]
No. I’ll give you the truth.
Your generation generally demonstrates that it has no moral compass. This is self-evident by your own admission that your peers do not have the common sense to recognize the destructive abomination of nature for what it is — and for what it has always been.
Your generation is the wet dream result of the ideological subversion initiated by the Marxist Weathermen Underground over 40 years ago.
[ Heck we are just out of college.]
College, where your professors have articulated, to my own ears, their utter dismay and disgust at the level of sophisticated cheating that your generation perpetrates and rationalizes because "everybody does it" and "that's what you have to do to survive".
Just out of "college" and off to a wonderful start - NOT:
“As a 19 then 20 year old boy, my managers and handlers taught me the ins and outs of mortgage fraud, drugs, sex, and money, money, and more money. My friend and manager handed out crystal methamphetamine to loan officers in a bid to keep them up and at work longer hours. At any given moment inside the restrooms - cocaine and meth was being snorted by my estimates more than a third of the staff, and more than half the staff manipulating documents to get loans to fund and more then 75% just completely made falses tatements on 1003s regarding stated income etc to get loans funded. A typical welcome aboard gift was a pair of scissors, tape, and white out, three things a loan officer or financial professional should never need.. Of course no where in training OR in management training did this 20 year old ever learn that false statements on a 1003 were a federal offense. Overall in the two and half years I was at Ameriquest I funded over $90,000,000 in mortgages, of which more then$75,000,000 contained some sorts of material frauds undetected by management and funders.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2184646/posts?page=8
It was YOUR generation of amoral Useful Idiots who facilitated your own financial slavery.
It IS your Recreate '68 generation that is parroting the same "revolutionary" idiocy of parents and teachers who evidently didn't learn that 1968 sucked the first time.
It is what it is. Deal with it.
No one in my office does crap like that and most of us are 22-30. Our office is very professional. We wear the wrong style of clothes and we are written up.
I will say it again. People my age (26) did not run up this countries debt problems. How did we facilitate our own financial slavery?? Heck most of us are just out of minimum wage job status and just now earning our first paychecks. We had no say in this countries matters.
We had no part of this debt problem. It was my parents and older generations that rang up this mess or allowed the politicans to do it.
99% of the people in my age group want smaller, limited govt.
Yeah, like absolute celibacy except within heterosexual marriage?
Cheers, queer.
Freepmail.
I'll bet Penn State is hiring too.
Cheers!
Like the fatuous, arrogant, solipsistic vermin they are.
Similar to how David Brooks voted for Obaama because of the crease in his pants; similar to how Obaama was recommended as qualified for office in written columns because he had led the Presidential campaign; or to his speech in Denver, masterfully upstaged by Palin, about "this is the moment the planet began to heal".
All monstrous, unforgivable LIES.
I'll play along. What members of your age group (not on FR, but in your workplace(s) and college) can you quote as having chosen McCain / Palin over Obaama; how many voted for Tea Party candidates in 2010?
What did you do to help convince your cohorts?
I'll wait. (Pulls out a calendar.)
[ Case such as that one are not the norm but the exception in the business world. ]
Trillions of dollars in Derivative A$$paper presently poisoning the global, systemically corrupted, economic infrastructure undisputably demonstrates otherwise.
Every level of the economic infrastructure - from the borrowers who LIED on their mortgage applications, the Account Executives who helped them do so, those who packaged the resulting financial instruments into securities, those who gave a AAA rating to the resulting A$$Paper, and those who creatively exploited the corruption via derivative instruments - EVERY LEVEL demonstrates symptomatic amoral systemic corruption.
[How did we facilitate our own financial slavery??]
By parroting the amoral and subversive crap that the self-worshipping "revolutionary" "recreate '68" Weather Underground (whose stooge presently occupies the White Hut) have been filling your tiny vapid little minds with for over 40 years. By parroting the amoral idiology that made the systemic corruption of the financial infrastructure possible.
Fiscal "Conservatism", concocted by Log Cabin interior decorating perverts who Worship the Golden Calf -- is NOT conservative.
It's kind of like that time when --"Hey, Moses has been up on that hill an awful long time. He and his god must be dead; so gee, let's just throw all our gold into the fire and worship what comes out, AGAIN".
It's a Ba'al out, get it? {badumpump}
[You are cherry picking info with that Ameriquest case.]
Observe the relationship between W and his ambassador to the Netherlands -- Roland Arnall, the Godfather of Subprime -- and then quack about cherry picking, Junior.
GeeOpie, too bad Kenny Mehlman and Co. were evidently so busy decorating the White Hut with fashionable Rainbow accoutrement's -- that they couldn't keep a predator like Arnall & Co. from climbing aboard W's coat tails.
"Oops".
FAIL.
Without government enforcing it on everyone else, and keeping AIDS patients alive (so they can infect others) with OUR tax money, there would be no “gay” agenda.
And I look forward to that day. May it come very soon.
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