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To: ansel12

1. No doubt Gingrich has a good record. Romney, however, ran surpluses his last two years in office. He came in to a huge shortfall. He moved the state legislature to reduce spending by over $1 billion. How other people ran their own campaigns is not his fault. Otherwise, you could say that Mitt’s approval ratings drop went in line with Bush’s. So does that mean its Bush’s fault? Approval ratings don’t necessarily correlate with a good or bad job. And since it was in Massachusetts, shouldn’t that be a good thing by your reasoning?

2. I don’t agree that Capitalism is harsh and unpleasant. What Romney did epitomizes free markets. He helped build struggling companies, and the ones that died deserved to die. Why? Because that is what the market decided.

3. Sorry, but getting elected Governor in a hostile environment is proof of electability. Being reelected for 20 years in a gerrymandered Congressional district is not.

4. By the very definition of the word cult, Mormonism is not a cult. Knock it all you want, and it is not my religion either, but if Gingrich is the nominee, you’ll be praying that the Mormons in Nevada go your way in November. Religious bigotry may be your thing, but don’t let it cloud your judgment.

5. Yes, the winter olympics. A billion dollar enterprise, with a 300 million shortfall, that he turned into a profit of just under 100 million. Responsibility for something like 20,000 paid and unpaid employees. All of these things are more than the number of budget dollars and/or employees that the other candidates have been responsible for, combined and times 10.

I know that FR is not a pro-Romney place. That is obvious. But let me repeat myself one more time... you are just spiting your own party.


36 posted on 02/16/2012 3:37:04 PM PST by dgcoronado
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To: dgcoronado; Jim Robinson
I know that FR is not a pro-Romney place. That is obvious. But let me repeat myself one more time... you are just spiting your own party.

I don't know what party JR belongs to if any, but I am amazed that we have to start back at 2007 again when it comes to Romney.

37 posted on 02/16/2012 3:48:18 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: dgcoronado; Dr. Sivana
dgcoronado: 1. To paraphrase what was rightfully said of Romney four years ago: (Santorum and Gingrich) are the guys who work next to you. Romney is the guy who lays off all of you. Real nice factor for electability in the USA nowadays.

2. Mitt's approval ratings tanked when it became obvious that he did not have a principle to his name and was only interested in personal power. Probably the single worst elected GOP official of the last 12 years.

3. All Mittens does is obsess over money. For most of us on FR, never mind in the general electorate, that shows a verrrry limited imagination and no leadership.

4. Romney cannot be trusted on babies, marriage, guns, military, foreign policy or anything else that is not money, money, money and, frankly on money issues, he can be trusted only to protect Muffy, Skipper and trust fund babies like, well, Mittens himself. He does absolutely NOTHING for most of us. I don't pay 45% on marginal income and neither do most of us here. I also don't give a sh*t if Mittens has to start paying 39.5% on his income from speeches after he is defeated if by Obozo or 35% if the status remains quo under a new GOP POTUS or is even lowered (except for the further damage that will do to the GOP brand). One thing is for sure: his precious tax rate on marginal income is NOT the be all and end all of human existence or of this year's election.

5. I have absolutely no problem with Romney's Mormon religion. I regard their doctrines as strange but then, as a Catholic, I know many regard Catholic dogmas as strange as well. Most Mormons are fine people. Romney is not and the pro-abortion position which has been traditional among Romneys is anything but Mormonism. Mittens problem with religion may well be that he is not Mormon enough. I don't think that Mormons are fans of sexual perversion posing as marriage either even if it never seems to bother Romney. Many Mormons are also a lot more familiar with firearms and the RTKBA than anyone named Romney.

6. The Winter Olympics???? The Winter Olympics???? Too bad Steve Jobs is dead. His positions on issues were generally no better than Romney but he was a hell of a lot more of a businessman. Warren Buffet? Bill Gates? Both of them to the left of Obozo but, hey, they are each terrific at business. What the hell does that have to do with being a desirable candidate for POTUS???

39 posted on 02/16/2012 4:27:22 PM PST by BlackElk ( Dean of Discipline ,Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Burn 'em Bright!)
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To: dgcoronado; BlackElk
1. No doubt Gingrich has a good record. Romney, however, ran surpluses his last two years in office. He came in to a huge shortfall. He moved the state legislature to reduce spending by over $1 billion.

Yawn. Every state governor is required to balance the budget. Even Jerry Brown and Ill Gov Quinn have to balance the budget. A billion dollars? Walker in WI inherited 3.6 Billion deficit in a smallish state. Christie's predecessor in NJ spent an extra $2 billion between the time he won the election and Christie took office. Romney's feat, even in a hostile environment, is not exceptional. He also left his succcessor in bad shape financially.

2. I don’t agree that Capitalism is harsh and unpleasant. What Romney did epitomizes free markets.

Except for the most rabid libertarian, most of us are okay with the Sherman Anti-Trust Act. Large companies, especially those that benefited from TARP are not acting like a Free Market. Romney supported that stuff. He also seems to be anti-market to the degree that he seems satisfied in buying off the poor.

3. Sorry, but getting elected Governor in a hostile environment is proof of electability. So, does that mean we should back William Weld for president? Unlike Romney, he even managed to get RE-elected!

4. By the very definition of the word cult, Mormonism is not a cult.
I'd feel more comfortable with Mormons if they would distance themselves from bad Mormons like Bishop Romney. The Bay Buchanans and the Glenn Becks of this world should treat him the way believing Catholics treat Nancy Pelosi and Kathleen Sebelius.

5. Yes, the winter olympics.

And he couldn't pick any decent judges as Governor of Massachusetts. Maybe we can have him as Undersecretary of Commerce or something.

But let me repeat myself one more time... you are just spiting your own party.

Freepers are indifferent to the party to the degree that it does not serve the end of conservatism. We have NO use for William Weld, Mayor Bloomberg, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Lowell Weicker, Olympia Snowe, Mitt Romney and other RINOS.

Many of us want to kick these types out of the tent, and replace them with people who cling to Bibles and guns, but don't worry so much about marginal tax rates or having a seat at the table for government goodies (G.E. types). If we tolerate a Mitt Romney, then we have essentially stated that this was also bluster, and we'll take our manure sandwich from either party, with the Republican one having ketchup, and a new Romney shoved down our unwilling throat every four years. No thanks.
41 posted on 02/16/2012 5:12:25 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (May Mitt Romney be the Paul Tsongas of 2012.)
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To: dgcoronado

Yeah, no doubt that a history making Republican Speaker of the House who will forever be in the history books for his stunning success as a history making conservative leader, has a “good record”.

You just breezed over the truth about Mitt Romney and his failed Governorship. The only credential for the guy is a single term as a disastrous Governor, during 20 years of active office seeking.

He was the 4th Republican Governor in a row, Massachusetts prefers Republican Governors, that is not getting elected “in a hostile environment” and “proof of electability”.

This is Romney’s second Presidential run where he is breaking spending records (something he does in all his campaigns) has all of the organization, the media, the money, yet he keeps showing as unelectable, as guys with no money, no organization, no real base, keep knocking him off.

Failing created a hostile environment for Romney. Mitt announced that he wanted to run for reelection, but his own polling showed that it was impossible, he was again, “unelectable”.

Romney proved that he lacked the ability to lead, convincing only 34% of his voters that he had that executive ability. Worse he hurt the state party, and lost the seat since then to the Democrats, successful politicians don’t do that.


46 posted on 02/16/2012 6:03:46 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: dgcoronado; reaganaut; ansel12
getting elected Governor in a hostile environment is proof of electability

LOLOL!!!!!

Before this current run, Romney faced voters 22 times and lost 17 of those times.

Mormonism is not a cult

Then you know absolutely NOTHING about Mormons. They believe that "gods" created earth. They believe that they WILL become gods and rule their own planets. And there's a LOT more!

49 posted on 02/16/2012 6:14:51 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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