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I've had it, after 55 years, with the Catholic Church. No more of my money for these people. Every homily is like an Obama campaign speech.

Is there a conservative alternative? Orthodox Church maybe?

Any suggestions?

1 posted on 02/15/2012 3:30:55 PM PST by Toaster tank
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You might try looking at things from the top down. Try the pope’s “Jesus of Nazareth,” in two volumes. Pretty much ignore the preface, which academic talk. Except that the pope makes it plain that he is writing as Joseph Ratzinger, not as pope. These are meditations on Jesus Christ as revealed in the Gospels, and it is all about Scripture.
I suggest that you start in the middle of Volume two, where he is discussing the Last Supper and the Eucharist.


52 posted on 02/15/2012 4:19:21 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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Write to Tom Cruise, Hollywood, CA. He’ll set you up.


53 posted on 02/15/2012 4:22:39 PM PST by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: Toaster tank; Zetman

I agree with Zetman - find a Catholic Church that hosts an “Extraordinary Form” (Tridentine) Mass: the Mass is much more reverent, and the priests who have learned the old rite are quite conservative.

I have found refreshed and renewed after attending these Masses instead of the touchy-feely new Rite.

This web site can point you in the right direction

http://latinmass.com/latinmassdirectory.html

as can this site:

http://unavoce.org/chapters/

Pax vobiscum.


61 posted on 02/15/2012 4:32:29 PM PST by paterfamilias
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Any Missouri or Wisconsin Synod Lutheran Churches in your area? If you are used to a liturgical service, you may find the words of the litergy to be the same.


62 posted on 02/15/2012 4:33:42 PM PST by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: Toaster tank; mickie; oswegodeee; flaglady47; Chigirl 26
Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod.

None of that social gospel/social justice stuff. No donations get shuttled off to the leftist National Council of Churches. Bible-based sermons.

When the Catholic church went to English, I discovered the liturgy intoned by the priests were in many cases the same as we Lutherans sing at the beginning of our services.

Plus, you can't beat the hymns in the Lutheran Hymnal. IMHO, the best hymns of any denomination. They are beautiful, moving, many of them famous..... written by the best hymnists in church history. Lutherans love to sing during service, no pussyfooting, the congregation sings lusty and loud.

My favorite Lutheran hymn is the beautiful and serene "Be Still My Heart (the Lord is On Thy Side)"...... based on composer Jean Sibelius' great work, "Finlandia".

There should be a LCMS near you. Make an appointment with the church secretary to talk to the pastor. She will also happily give you a tour of the church on request.

Good luck and may your search be blessed.

Leni

64 posted on 02/15/2012 4:34:30 PM PST by MinuteGal
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former pastor here - stay away from Free Methodists no matter how conservative they look


65 posted on 02/15/2012 4:36:51 PM PST by Revelation 911 (How many 100's of 1000's of our servicemen died so we would never bow to a king?" -freeper pnh102)
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I’ve seen liberal churches, conservative ones, and some in between. They pretty much reflect the neighborhood / community they are in. It is not specifically a Catholic thing either.


66 posted on 02/15/2012 4:41:31 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Toaster tank; Currentriverrat; Hans; libertymaker; zerosix
Is there a conservative alternative?

Lutheran Church Missouri Synod. Very conservetive and you will be able to follow the liturgy!

Lutheran - Missouri Synod. . . .

Lutheran Church Missouri Synod is very conservative and strictly adheres to bibical teachings. The services are quite beautiful, especially in the older church buildings.

you might be comfortable at a Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod (the conservative Lutheran church). . . .

I concur. I am a pastor in the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod. We are a socially/theologically conservative, liturgical, sacramental church body (although some of our congregations are not as liturgical as they should be).

If you'd like, Toaster tank, I can direct you to some information and websites of LCMS congregaations near you to check out. Let me know (on this thread or via freepmail) your town and ZIP code, and I can give you some recommendations. I've helped a number of people find good congregations in their area.

67 posted on 02/15/2012 4:43:15 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Lutheran pastor and LCMS Ping List master)
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It sounds as though you value Sacramental worship, decent liturgy, and sound preaching.

Within the communion of Rome: a Trindentine-rite parish, or any of the eastern rites (Maronite, Melkite, Greek Catholic, etc).

Not in communion with Rome: Any of the Orthodox...Antiochian tends to be English-speaking or multilingual; some Greek Orthodox are becoming bi-lingual at key points of the liturgy.

Of the Western traditions not in communion with Rome: the Anglican Church of North America; the Lutheran Church-Misouri Synod; any Lutheran congregation of any label pastored by a member of the Society of the Holy Trinity

68 posted on 02/15/2012 4:43:58 PM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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Is there a conservative church out there?
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Here’s an excellent one:

http://deanbible.org/mission.php

Free live-stream over the internet:
http://deanbible.org/index.php

Extensive, free archives of audio and video
(a goldmine of solid, in-depth Bible teaching):
http://deanbible.org/andromeda.php?q=f&f=%2FAudio+Files

The pastor:
http://deanbible.org/bio.php


69 posted on 02/15/2012 4:45:32 PM PST by onthelookout777
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Every homily is like an Obama campaign speech.

Have you made any effort to find a parish where this is not the case? Try an Eastern Rite Catholic church if every priest in your diocese is a flaming liberal. Talk to other conservative Catholics (Opus Dei is a good place to look) about where they go.

One of the priests at my parish is to the right of me -- and that's an achievement! -- and makes it very clear in his homilies, so don't tell me that it's that way everywhere.

70 posted on 02/15/2012 4:46:13 PM PST by Campion ("It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins." -- Franklin)
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Independent Baptist-very conservative, fundamentalist, differing degrees of strictness regarding personal standards of holiness (though all have high standards), practice Biblical separation. Though it would probably be extreme “culture shock” for you, coming from the Roman Catholic tradition. The churches are autonomous, though there are loose associations and fellowships between like churches.


78 posted on 02/15/2012 5:08:24 PM PST by mrsmel
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I attend an Evangelical Free church(EFree). My impression is that many of the affiliated churches may differ. The one I attend keeps it simple and to the point. Five worship songs followed by a biblically based sermon. Good stuff.


80 posted on 02/15/2012 5:24:19 PM PST by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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I came home to Orthodoxy just a few years ago. It is Christianity’s best kept secret. ELCA had become Christianity Lite, of which I had no interest in maintaining.


85 posted on 02/15/2012 5:35:50 PM PST by firebasecody (Orthodoxy, proclaiming the Truth since AD 33)
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I came home to Orthodoxy just a few years ago. It is Christianity’s best kept secret. ELCA had become Christianity Lite, of which I had no interest in maintaining.


86 posted on 02/15/2012 5:35:58 PM PST by firebasecody (Orthodoxy, proclaiming the Truth since AD 33)
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"Might I put forward the Anglican Orthodox Church. Affiliates in 22 countries, no real overhead, totally Scripture based and completely aligned with the Constitution in this country. www.anglicanorthodox.com"

I second that.

87 posted on 02/15/2012 5:36:27 PM PST by BlueCat
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"Might I put forward the Anglican Orthodox Church. Affiliates in 22 countries, no real overhead, totally Scripture based and completely aligned with the Constitution in this country. www.anglicanorthodox.com"

I second that.

88 posted on 02/15/2012 5:36:40 PM PST by BlueCat
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Well here is my church concept, while we are talking ideas:

www.worldviewchristianchurch.wordpress.com


90 posted on 02/15/2012 5:50:21 PM PST by grumpa
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Sovereign Grace Ministries, headquartered in Gaithersburg, Md., with churches all over the US.
99 posted on 02/15/2012 6:43:59 PM PST by rabidralph
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RPCNA (Reformed Presbyterian Church in North America) is very conservative, thru and thru.


102 posted on 02/15/2012 7:10:14 PM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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