the proper word would be discharged, not fired...
Posted on 02/15/2012 1:10:19 PM PST by FewsOrange
Pediatricians fed up with parents who refuse to vaccinate their children out of concern it can cause autism or other problems increasingly are "firing" such families from their practices, raising questions about a doctor's responsibility to these patients.
Medical associations don't recommend such patient bans, but the practice appears to be growing, according to vaccine researchers.
In a study of Connecticut pediatricians published last year, some 30% of 133 doctors said they had asked a family to leave their practice for vaccine refusal, and a recent survey of 909 Midwestern pediatricians found that 21% reported discharging families for the same reason.
By comparison, in 2001 and 2006 about 6% of physicians said they "routinely" stopped working with families ...
Most pediatricians consider preventing disease through vaccines a primary goal of their job. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and AAP issue an annual recommended vaccination schedule, but some parents ask if their child's immunizations can be pushed back or skipped altogether, pediatricians say. While rates for several key inoculations in young children rose between 2009 and 2010, according to the CDC, lower immunization rates have been blamed as a factor in U.S. outbreaks of whooping cough and measles in recent years.
Parents often voice concerns about autism or that their child's immune system may be overwhelmed by too many vaccines at once. Worries about a link between vaccines and autism arose because some parents noticed their children regressed, or lost some skills, around the time of their vaccinations at two years of age. Another concern centered on the former use of mercury as a vaccine preservative.
Numerous studies since have dispelled these concerns among scientists. Rather, scientists say, it is more likely that autism symptoms begin showing up around the same age children are vaccinated.
(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...
the proper word would be discharged, not fired...
“No, I’m just mocking you because you’re an idiot.”
OK. Your argument so far, is, Jonas Salk was Jewish. Jonas Salk invented a terrific vaccine. It was a great boon to mankind. Therefore, anyone who questions anyone Else who makes a vaccine must be an idiot cultist who believes in global warming and hates Jews.
Have I got that right?
“Personally with or without vaccinations I suspect both your gene pools. “
You wouldn’t be the first one. But at least I’m not blaming the single biggest advance in human health responsible for saving millions of lives. I can at least see the obvious.
Are you stupid because of your childhood vaccinations, or were you born that way?
Not anymore. Legislation passed about ten years ago made exempt all medical professionals, providers, and vaccine makers from litigation. Instead, claims go to a special vaccine court, where an appointee decides if someone was injured. Payouts are covered by a per vaccine fee the manufacturers pay into a fund. You can read the case files and see that there are folks harmed by these things.
So, we have exempted from lawsuits by Congress the tobacco industry and vaccine makers. Suspicious at all?
Where did I say that all vaccines are worthless? I didn’t.
Where did I say all vaccines are equally risky? I didn’t.
Polio and smallpox infections were already decreasing steadily before the vaccines, you can check that out in the data. Polio infections went up after the first vaccines because the vaccines themselves gave kids polio. Batches of the polio vaccine gave polio to the kids. In the first couple years polio went UP because of one of the vaccines. Read your history.
As for rabies, it is not given to everyone as part of the standard vaccination schedule. It’s only to people under specific circumstances. Thus a rabies vaccine is not given as part of a “herd immunity” strategy, it’s given because a particular person is exposed to a particular potential virus.
I have no problem with people who decide to take vaccines. I also have no problem if they have determined a vaccine, one or several or all of them, to be too risky for themselves to take. Why do you have a problem with people who don’t decide the way you do? None of the vaccines are without risk? Who are you to say one person’s assessment of risk to themselves has to be yours?
And how happy are you that government gives itself and pharma companies immunity from prosecution if under “emergencies” there are severe injuries or deaths from vaccines whipped up quickly, or for experimental vaccines, forced upon or voluntarily taken by people? You can check the federal emergency plans for biohazard problems and just about every state’s plans and there are no repercussions at all to the governments or the drug companies for such things.
I did NOT blame the so called advancement in human health for anything. You cannot read with comprehension. IF the single biggest advancement in human health is so sacrilegious then why in the .ell are there NO vaccination clinics set up all along our borders.
I am also aware of 'herd' immunity. AND I also know that it is the parents responsibility to NOT expose their gene pool to all the 'social' government programs IF one decides to wait until their gene pool is old enough to physically deal with what vaccine cocktails get injected into their tiny bodies.
IT is NOT stupid to heed the WARNINGS given at the time the required parental consent is signed to have their gene pool injected. But you carry on with your superior self importance.
Wait, so disbelieving one scientific consensus based on observations is wrong, but blindly agreeing to another is just fine? Really?
Potential money to be made = Global Warming
Huge money already being made = Big Pharma
Who has the most at stake to spread the big lie?
LOL - that’s really good.
“This sounds like a marketing opportunity for a medical practice that doesn’t support vaccination. Surely there is at least one doctor, osteopathic practitioner, chiropractor, or something that would be interested in picking up these customers.”
I think the “State” in all it’s manifestations would come down on you like a ton of bricks.
Owning a small plumbing repair business, I fired customers when I felt that we did not have a good working relationship even though they paid for the work I was doing.
Sometimes after a couple of years of being their plumber you get another call from them and you have to explain that you won’t accept it, that you are letting them go, and that they will have to find another company.
I did NOT blame the so called advancement in human health for anything. You cannot read with comprehension. IF the single biggest advancement in human health is so sacrilegious then why in the .ell are there NO vaccination clinics set up all along our borders.
I am also aware of 'herd' immunity. AND I also know that it is the parents responsibility to NOT expose their gene pool to all the 'social' government programs IF one decides to wait until their gene pool is old enough to physically deal with what vaccine cocktails get injected into their tiny bodies.
IT is NOT stupid to heed the WARNINGS given at the time the required parental consent is signed to have their gene pool injected. But you carry on with your superior self importance.
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That's the problem with all sorts of clever business ideas, unfortunately.
I'm not taking a position against vaccines, personally - it was just a thought that a discrete group of customers might generate a service provider to serve them.
You are defying the global warming - wait, no - I mean the vaccine experts?
Report to Room 101 for mockery, breakdown, and then after a light lunch, rebuilding.
These people are fanatics. You either haveto believe their way or you’re stupid, evil, can’t figure stuff out for yourself, etc. This is exactly how liberals argue when they have no substance to their position. They just start with the personal attacks. It’s what the global warming alarmists did. They destroyed people’s careers and got them fired for not going along with their viewpoint.
Here we have supposedly conservative people who can’t stand it that some parents have decided that for their family vaccines are more risky than they are beneficial. And for this these “conservative” jackboots cannot stand someone else making a health decision different from what they believes is best for them.
Vaccines are not a one size fits all solution for everyone. You don’t know other people’s medical histories. You don’t know the medical problems of other people’s children. You don’t know the hereditary issues that may exist in their world that you don’t have to deal with. You don’t know they’ve already had kids or themselves that have had really bad reactions to vaccines in the past. What you decide to take a risk on may not be what someone else is willing to take a risk on.
Statistics mean nothing when YOU are the guy permanently damaged or dead, or your kid is damaged or dead.
So suck it up - people can make their own medical decisions. We aren’t the effing Soviet Union or China forcing abortions on people if they try to have a second kid. We don’t demand people take risky medical actions that they can’t sue the government or vaccine makers if it screws them up. If that’s the world you want to live in, I suggest you go find your little communist utopia somewhere where the individual has no rights over their own personal health.
” find professionals that have the notion of firing customers/clients/patrons to be quaint. It is as if they have no control in their lives and have to adopt the obamaeque delusion of word twisting.”
I guess. English is not my first language, and that’s what I call refusing to do business with idiots.
“Why are you unhappy there are some people who make medical decisions different from what you believe?”
It’s not what “I believe.” It’s what “is true.”
Deluded vaccine luddites like yourself harm not only themselves (which would, I agree, be your problem and none of others’ concerns), but also harm others.
And, yes, because of the duty imposed by G-d on me of “tikkun olam,” the harm to others is my concern.
Around here, at least, it’s possible. A local chiropractor operates a “wellness clinic” with muscle therapists, nutritionists, and a whole host of other practitioners from various fields. I hear his ads all the time on my talk radio station.
The man himself isn’t much more pleasant than he claims allopathic (conventional) physicians are, but it’s good that people around here have an alternative.
“Wait, so disbelieving one scientific consensus based on observations is wrong, but blindly agreeing to another is just fine?”
Global warming cultists and the anti-vaccine cultists share the same bad scientific methods.
Remarkably so, in fact.
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