Posted on 02/15/2012 1:10:19 PM PST by FewsOrange
Pediatricians fed up with parents who refuse to vaccinate their children out of concern it can cause autism or other problems increasingly are "firing" such families from their practices, raising questions about a doctor's responsibility to these patients.
Medical associations don't recommend such patient bans, but the practice appears to be growing, according to vaccine researchers.
In a study of Connecticut pediatricians published last year, some 30% of 133 doctors said they had asked a family to leave their practice for vaccine refusal, and a recent survey of 909 Midwestern pediatricians found that 21% reported discharging families for the same reason.
By comparison, in 2001 and 2006 about 6% of physicians said they "routinely" stopped working with families ...
Most pediatricians consider preventing disease through vaccines a primary goal of their job. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and AAP issue an annual recommended vaccination schedule, but some parents ask if their child's immunizations can be pushed back or skipped altogether, pediatricians say. While rates for several key inoculations in young children rose between 2009 and 2010, according to the CDC, lower immunization rates have been blamed as a factor in U.S. outbreaks of whooping cough and measles in recent years.
Parents often voice concerns about autism or that their child's immune system may be overwhelmed by too many vaccines at once. Worries about a link between vaccines and autism arose because some parents noticed their children regressed, or lost some skills, around the time of their vaccinations at two years of age. Another concern centered on the former use of mercury as a vaccine preservative.
Numerous studies since have dispelled these concerns among scientists. Rather, scientists say, it is more likely that autism symptoms begin showing up around the same age children are vaccinated.
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“once a fire is extinguished does the fire department stay and continue putting water on it?”
Only if they don’t want their kids to die of preventable childhood diseases.
“To those of you who believe all children should receive all vaccinations, I would ask: Which vaccinations? How many? How many more vaccinations are you willing to add to the schedule? Will there ever be a limit?”
On what basis are you refusing vaccinations, and which ones?
If you have a good reason, great, but if you really just don’t know, why not just go with the recommended course?
Yours is twisted and uninformed logic. That medical science evolves is a good thing, but for crying out loud.
When you doctor gives you antibiotics (You DO take those, don’t you?) it is YOUR thinking that causes drug resistant strains of bacteria. “I feel better, so I’m going to stop taking them”.
Get your vaccines, take the full course of antibiotics and stop questioning things you have no capacity to understand.
Good move. Stay away from those poisons. (Probably a good idea to get a new doctor as well!)
or maybe their kids are just stupid.
Citation?
And the same to you! I’ve been sending baby pictures to my friends in Oklahoma in the last few days. Sometimes I miss living in a place where everything was nicely square and almost completely flat!
The bridge that needs to be crossed to accept the fact the gubmint, bigPharma, AMA members, etc. may not have your best interests at heart, and may actually be harming you on purpose, is just to difficult for most people to accept. And for some, when they are pressed on matters like this, will often get very testy/angry/obnoxious and attack, since that is the easier path to follow (after all, you get to hold onto all of those beliefs and don't have to think much about it).
The “Normalcy Bias” provides a great deal of the reasons/explanation why our society has devolved to the current state, and has allowed gubmint to grow to its behemoth extra-Constitutional state.
Citation please, especially for “likely”?
What a piece of work you are. Crawl in a hole.
You need to reconsider who’s on drugs here buddy.
The guy who says it’s up to the individual to decide if the benefits outweigh the risks of certain vaccines for them, or people like you who can’t somehow tolerate anyone else having a different decision than yours.
I know/this, I said they are cultured from aborted cell lines. Instead of a medium. Like chicken embryos, yes, I get that. It’s still exploitation using an aborted baby’s material for the supposed benefit of others.
Adjuvants are added to vaccines to stimulate the immune system's response to the target antigen. It makes them more effective and allows for much smaller amounts of antigens to be used. There's a reason why less antigen is used today. It is also why vaccines are safer today than at any other time in history. It's comical that you would fear the product that made it possible. I do not have a comprehension problem. You, though, have been clearly spared from the ravages of being able to think critically. Ok, so you're afraid of the adjuvants as well as the number of shots a child receives. Your fear knows no bounds. You are quite the chemicalphobe. How do you even manage to breathe knowing the air you inhale contains benzene? Living in fear of things you don't understand is no way to go through life. But then, it's human nature to fear the things you don't understand.
I'd ask you what your specific fear of adjuvants might be but I'm afraid I'd get some toxic terrorist tin foil screed about peanut oil. As much as I'd appreciate the laugh, it's clear to me now that you possess a fixed mentality based on ignorance and nothing I say can ever change that. Ignorance is one thing, however, willful ignorance is an entirely different story. When luddites like you fail to vaccinate their kids, they endanger my kids too, because you undermine our ability to develop a community immunity, which provides an important layer of protection for all. Thanks. How selfish of you. Fear is more infectious than any virus.
Over the past century, science has provided us with products and services that have reduced infant and child mortality by more than 90%, and has increased our life expectancy by almost 30 years. All of this change carried risks. Good thing the luddites lost the argument. The ignorant minority goes on about their lives without thinking about the horrors they might have suffered without vaccinations. One of the problems in defending modern science and technology against the idiots who criticize progress is that so many of the benefits they enjoy are unseen. We've used adjuvants in vaccines for more than 60 years, but here you are whining about things you don't understand oblivious to the mountain of evidence in front of you that proves you wrong.
If nothing else, at least you can stop lying about the fact that you are an anti-vaccine zealot.
I have even heard of doctors refusing to treat any lawyer who has ever sued a doctor. Makes sense to me.
Polio was the one I was concerned about - until my at the time, pro-vaccination doc—explained it was eradicated.
What he was concerned about was the tetanus shot. My opinion at the time, and still is - is that we have hot water, topical and oral antibiotics - and our lifestyle doesn’t really allow for rusty nails in feet. If we lived in a different area, I may re-think that one.
Death from measles, mumps, chicken pox, whooping cough, etc is not likely to happen. It may be uncomfortable, but we’ll work through that if it happens.
I’m not saying you shouldn’t vaccinate your kid if after the research you decide that is the best way for your family to proceed. I am saying that each family should be able to make the decision for themselves and not be blackmailed into it at the risk of losing a doctor they may otherwise really like.
(although in all honesty I would rather go to a doc that could appreciate my ability to research and decide what is best for my child and not fight me every step of the way...but that’s just me.)
There’s nothing wrong with my logic. But I have to laugh at you calling my logic “twisted and uninformed” and then you proceeding to set up a strawman argument. ;-)
Here’s my question again: The medical community itself has disagreements over the vaccination schedule. New immunizations are consistently added to the schedule, and sometimes others are removed. So... which shots do you think should be required? Do you think there should be a limit at all? Is there any number of shots that you consider too many to require? 50? 100? (It’s already up to around 30.) I’m just curious to know if any of you have a limit.
Like I said, keep on taking them, since you believe them to be safe. No one is stopping you, but don’t you dare try to inflict your ideas on me and mine, since I don’t rely on belief but actual knowledge of the risks.
Good luck to you! I hope you don’t ever have to see a loved one’s health smashed - I really do.
I suffered from whooping cough, the chicken pox and the German Measles (twice). I vividly remember those illnesses as a child. I have family members who live with the effects of polio. I made sure my children were vaccinated.
I found it interesting that an acquaintance refused to have her child vaccinated (the 80’s). She was very vocal about it, criticizing those who did. When her child reached adulthood they joined the US Army and had to have them all anyway - as an adult. I bet that was way more miserable than having it done as a child.
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