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He's right! If we get to that point --- the establishment is going to squeeze or ram Jeb or Christie as the saviors, we have to counter that immediately with Palin
1 posted on 02/13/2012 12:30:42 PM PST by Bigtigermike
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The bizarre thing was that Gingrich came out and opposed the Obama mandate days before Santorum even knew about it...and the press never reported it. This was while he was still in Florida.

That said, I think the winner is going to be Romney. Santorum has no selling power because he’s not personable, not conservative in any way except pro-life, and he is clueless about economics and has always voted for every government welfare program that came down the pike. Romney has no ideas, but neither does Santorum, and things will settle down after Santorum’s mini-bump with two non-binding caucuses and Romney will come out ahead again.

If it goes to a brokered convention, I think the winner will still be Romney. The GOP wouldn’t even want Jeb Bush in there (he’s much more conservative than they like) and I know they sure wouldn’t let Palin get into it.

Frankly, unless a giant airplane crash takes out all of them on their way to the convention, I think we have to work with what we’ve got and not fantasize.


36 posted on 02/13/2012 1:04:46 PM PST by livius
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I hope Sarah is doing some behind the scenes work, because if there is any truth to this rumor,you Jeb is lining up establishment GOP votes.


37 posted on 02/13/2012 1:06:45 PM PST by elvis-lives
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And if they do, I won’t vote.

Sorry.


40 posted on 02/13/2012 1:08:48 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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http://bernie-quigley.dailykos.com/


41 posted on 02/13/2012 1:11:16 PM PST by Praxeologue
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I don't trust anything that Bernie Quigley has to say to conservatives.

At best, he is trying to set us up.

42 posted on 02/13/2012 1:12:35 PM PST by Praxeologue
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Get out of da Bushes!


44 posted on 02/13/2012 1:13:38 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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You wanna war?


45 posted on 02/13/2012 1:18:17 PM PST by McGruff (Think in bold colors not pale pastels.)
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A brokered convention that dumps Romney for Jeb or Christie is a disaster and will re-elect Obama. It would be the elites and RNC just switching RINOs.

If we can’t get a conservative like Gingrich, Santorum or Palin, we are not offering America a real and good opponent to Obama. Another term for Obama & co. will put America so far down, it could be 50 years before we get back to pre-2008 strength. You, your kids and grand kids will be little more than 3rd world peasants.


46 posted on 02/13/2012 1:18:31 PM PST by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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I think Paul Ryan may be the one guy that could excite both the fiscal and social conservatives.

The MSM would try to hang Social Security reform around his neck, but I don't think it is as powerful an issue as it once was.

47 posted on 02/13/2012 1:20:36 PM PST by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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“Republican turmoil might lead to a brokered convention in which Jeb Bush would emerge as a “possible alternative” party nominee.”

No matter how many stakes you drive through the heart of the establishment Dracula, he keep’s coming back. And since Bush would likely go down in flames in a year when Republicans should win big, it leads one to conclude the establishment would rather lose in the general election than lose control in the primary.

No to the establishment party hacks and no to any more Bushes.


53 posted on 02/13/2012 1:37:51 PM PST by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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“We’re all Catholics now,” said Mike Huckabee...

First they came for the Catholics, but I said nothing because I was not a Catholic...

54 posted on 02/13/2012 1:39:14 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the fascists.)
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Sarah Palin ........ She is now and always has been the singular Jacksonian voice in the original Tea Party phenomenon;

The Jacksonian Tradition

His reason was like lightning and his action like a thunderbolt" Amos Kendall,.

55 posted on 02/13/2012 1:46:30 PM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan
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We are going to have to face up to the fact that a majority of the "party" (whatever that means) believes that the show can go on, OR believes that it's necessary to pretend to believe that so as to get elected.

Most of us here believe that the show CAN'T go on, and we want a leader who knows it, too, and isn't afraid to say so.

Sarah is that leader. Newt is at least a wannabe.

Mitt and Rick are selling continuity - your benefits are safe - just with better management.

Winston Churchill was, in 1936, 37, 38, and 39 one of the most mocked, derided, and despised men in Britain. "Everybody knew" he was a joke, and dangerous, to boot. Even with panzers rolling through Poland and paratroops landing in Norway, there was no way for him to become PM.

Only when the panzers were heading for the Channel was it possible for the old thinking to give way, and for the King to send for Churchill.

I feel like that's where we are at. There are Those Who Can See, those who know that if this can't go on, then it won't, and that change at our direction and in a manner of our choosing will be preferable to collapse - but we are far from a majority.

Sarah Palin, who I believe with all my heart is the one to lead us, cannot be chosen until things get worse - a lot worse. And we have no King to send for her.

If Obama is reelected, I do not believe we have four years to wait. A lot is riding on this election, but we are leaderless.

57 posted on 02/13/2012 1:57:07 PM PST by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: lainde; Lakeshark; LibLieSlayer; little jeremiah; Lilpug15; maggief; Mama Shawna; Marcella; ...
Sarah Palin's New Ping List

"We'll keep our God, our guns and our Constitution."

58 posted on 02/13/2012 2:06:45 PM PST by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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This notion that a brokered convention could be a healthy or “good” event just doesn’t ring true to me. I do not know why Palin thinks that it will be. I see no guarantee that such an event will lead to a conservative getting the nomination. Corrupt people always lift up other corrupt people. It is just as likely that we’ll get a RINO shoved down our throat than it is that Sarah Palin will get it, and this would happen with even less accountability than it would in just winning the delegates the old fashioned way. After all, there will be deals going on behind closed doors, conversations I will not be privy to. Right now, I can at least see what’s going on state by state. I can read the polls. I can debate with people and I can campaign in my home state, or on the internet in my limited way, or I can donate money to my candidate so they can keep on fighting. In the brokered convention... I lose all of that. It gets handed off to a small group of people who will be tackled directly by Establishment propaganda types.

This isn’t good for the country. We must do our best to avoid a brokered convention at all costs, and get a firm front runner immediately.

And as for Palin getting the nod. I don’t see how that can be seen as a good or bad thing. We already have candidates who can express conservatism. The question is, what will Palin’s platform be? If it’s as weak as Santorum’s or McCain’s, her personality itself simply won’t cut it. We need real change in this country, including tax reform, entitelment reform... measures must be taken that will strike a lasting blow against the leftist enemy and reinvigorate our failing country. Now is not the time for the usual solutions that never go anywhere. Now is the time to launch a bold initiative.

That’s another thing. Look at what names are getting shot around. People who are not going to be vetted the way this campaign season can vet them. People who are going to get nominated without a real discussion on their platform. They may not even have a platform when they win it. It would just degenerate into a pure personality contest. Unless I am wrong about how this brokered convention would work, that’s the only conclusion I can come to.

If Palin thinks this stuff is actually positive, perhaps the reason why she has been content to provide commentary as opposed to leadership is because she has bought into this idea of an upset win in a brokered convention when all the other conservatives have “failed”. She would therefore have “no choice” but to take it upon herself. In other words, she would take the spoils, without any of the toil. This is conspiracy theory, of course. But if this really did come to pass... Palin wouldn’t be the person we thought she was, and I wouldn’t support her.

But the fact of the matter is, I wouldn’t support any of the losers who emerged from this brokered process.

The more I think about it, the bigger the tragedy begins to look.

We must defeat Romney, and we must try our best to avoid a brokered convention. Unless I am horribly misguided as to how a brokered convention will work that is.


59 posted on 02/13/2012 2:28:32 PM PST by Apollo5600
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Let there be no doubt: All Santorum supporters and all Gingrich supporters would immediately rally around Palin without reservation.

None.

60 posted on 02/13/2012 2:38:46 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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here is the math........... brokered convention=party bigwigs in the backroom smoking cigars and drinking brandy=mcromney as the nominee....


61 posted on 02/13/2012 2:43:48 PM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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Question: if it comes down to this, between Jeb Bush supporters and Sarah Palin supporters, why should the Palin supporters be considered the unrealistic dreamers of the two groups? Palin can attract enthusiasm, and enthusiastic votes, from GOP and independent voters outside her extended family and employees. Can Jeb honestly say the same?


62 posted on 02/13/2012 2:48:54 PM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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I wish Gov. Perry would get back in the race. He is head and shoulders above any candidate in this primary. I like his conservative record, his strong conservative platform including his economic plan, his states rights philosophy, and other provisions I know of. I don’t give a tinkers damn for our other big government choices!!


66 posted on 02/13/2012 3:09:20 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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I wish Gov. Perry would get back in the race. He is head and shoulders above any candidate in this primary. I like his conservative record, his strong conservative platform including his economic plan, his states rights philosophy, and other provisions I know of. I don’t give a tinkers damn for our other big government choices!!


69 posted on 02/13/2012 3:11:39 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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