Posted on 02/13/2012 4:20:40 AM PST by Graybeard58
I think I'm starting to get it.
It's like a parent telling their child they are free to choose to eat either the spinach or the ice cream... as long as they choose the spinach. If instead they choose the ice cream, the freedom of choice will no longer be unalienable, the parent may take the right to choose away, and the parent will FORCE the child to eat the spinach.
But free will gives the child the choice to eat the spinach voluntarily instead of being forced to eat it.
Is that how it works?
Folks, the simplest solution is for the nuns to ATTEND the strip club. Sit in the front row, order water, pay the minimum (ladies night?) and chat with the dancers about how they might make their lives better.
In full traditional habit if they can.
Let’s just say it will change the mood for the men who would be attending.
Very well put. The freedom to choose good means nothing if there is no alternative. Of course God wants us to choose good; but the value in choosing good is, in part, the rejection of evil. God also gives us the freedom to worship Him, but He does not force us to, or else how would that be freedom at all?
Adam and Eve failed to choose the good (which didn’t entail actually DOING good, only refraining from disobeying God in the Garden of Eden), and Man has paid the price (until Christ picked up the tab).
Eating ice cream isn’t evil, so the analogy fails.
A better analogy would be the choice between eating a dish of ice cream, versus eating a half gallon. The latter would represent an abuse of freedom —I.e., gluttony.
Who said anything about the parent withdrawing the freedom to choose because it was evil? They could take away the freedom to choose based on the color of the food chosen just as easily as any other arbitrary criteria.
Now I get it. Most lesbians do oppose strip clubs.
Perhaps I was to harsh, normally I respect others faith. But when people of whatever faith use that faith to try and control others. It really bothers me.
Does that include the “faith” of secular humanism?
The assumption of that “faith” is used to control others all the time in our contemporary world.
I do not make assumptions. But I can see it when it’s put in practice.
The ad hominem aside, the fact remains that the explicit support of the US Catholic Health Organization gave ostensibly “pro-life” Democrats the cover they needed to vote for Obama’s death care law.
>>The ad hominem aside, the fact remains that the explicit support of the US Catholic Health Organization gave ostensibly pro-life Democrats the cover they needed to vote for Obamas death care law.<<
And that has to do with this thread because......???
Oh I know, the word “nuns” is in the title. Never miss a good opportunity to bash. One nun=another.
Great idea, I’d love to see that happen.
Ladies, it’s time to move your daily prayers to right behind that building. All of you. At full volume. At all the hours you’d normally do them. I have no doubt that will add just the atmosphere your new neighbor was seeking for a strip bar.
Sounds like the nuns have touched a nerve.
How about the nuns set up cameras which pictuer everyone that walks into the club?
Shows the name of the owner of the vehible that goes into the club.
Make it a humiliation to patronize it.
peaceful protest via jumbotron and internet.
remember the “temperance leagues”? they gave us prohibition and that went over like a lead balloon.
I didn’t think nuns touched anything.
“So since God has made it possible for us to choose evil, He doesnt care if we choose to do evil?”
That’s not even close to what I said or insinuated. Being given the ability to do something is not the same as condoning it. Nonetheless, we were given the ability and the right to choose between good and evil. The consequences of those decisions are our own and we were duly warned.
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