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Greece's grim choice: deep budget cuts or default
Yahoo Finance ^ | February 11,2012 | Christina Rexrode

Posted on 02/12/2012 6:29:48 PM PST by Hojczyk

Greece's grim trade-off: Impose deeper spending cuts or abandon euro and default on debts

Why would Greece accept more pain when unemployment is at 21 percent, the economy is enduring its fifth year of recession and rioters are hurling gasoline bombs in the streets of Athens?

Because the alternative might be worse.

Greek leaders are gritting their teeth as they move forward with a plan to further slash spending in return for a bailout of about $172 billion (€130 billion) from other countries in Europe and around the world. The Greek Parliament is scheduled to vote on the plan Sunday.

Greece is trapped in a lose-lose predicament: It must deepen an austerity plan begun in 2010 that will throw many more people out of work. Or it must default on its debts, abandon Europe's single currency and see its banking system implode.

"The choice we face is one of sacrifice or even greater sacrifice — on a scale that cannot be compared," Greek Finance Minister Evangelos Venizelos said.

Here is a closer look at Greece's two bleak options:

—Impose deep spending cuts in exchange for the bailout.

The pros:

Greece needs the bailout to make a $19.1 billion (€14.5 billion) bond payment due March 20. Prime Minister Lucas Papademos warned that "a disorderly default would cast our country into a catastrophic adventure."

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: countdown2war

1 posted on 02/12/2012 6:29:51 PM PST by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk
Oh look!

Another brain dead article written by a myopic idiot who is intellectually too lackluster to notice that Greece is not in trouble all by itself and that there not only are more options than the two presented...there is another option more historically likely to be chosen.

2 posted on 02/12/2012 6:36:00 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Hojczyk
Greece's grim trade-off: Impose deeper spending cuts or abandon euro and default on debts

I don't believe there is a trade off at all, because both things are going to happen. If they make budget cuts now, it will cause further economic deterioration, their tax base will go down more, and they will default a little later. If they default first, they will be locked out of the credit markets for a few years, which means they will have to have a balanced budget, which means budget cuts. Both things are guaranteed.

3 posted on 02/12/2012 6:36:34 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Hojczyk
About the first American Civil War, it has been said that the South ought to have freed the slaves as a first step, then fired on Ft Sumter. They would have had the moral high ground, international support, and a very capable military. Alas, they did not.

If Greece were smart, they would default now (they will eventually) and also impose austerity. They need to get their house in order (austerity is required) but their international debts are a ludicrous burden.

In the end, everyone will default. It may be that going first will be an advantage in the long run.

4 posted on 02/12/2012 6:38:38 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (I am pro-Jesus, anti-abortion, pro-limited government, anti-GOP.)
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To: Hojczyk

Maybe both...


5 posted on 02/12/2012 7:11:13 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: ClearCase_guy
If Greece were smart, they would default now ...

The first one to default will be in the best shape on the other side. "Sorry, guys, we are broke. We are cancelling all our obligations and printing a new currency. Thanks for all those loans."

6 posted on 02/12/2012 7:33:13 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Hojczyk
They should offer up any assets as collateral. Assets like real-estate. If they default, then we own the island of say Crete.

I like Dennis Miller's statement — “...can't pay it back? Who cares.” Paraphrasing, of course.

7 posted on 02/12/2012 7:41:41 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: Vince Ferrer

Where is Kurt Russell? He needs to film “Escape from Athens.”

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8 posted on 02/12/2012 7:45:42 PM PST by whitedog57
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Hojczyk, additional.
9 posted on 02/12/2012 7:48:10 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: dhs12345

“They should offer up any assets as collateral. Assets like real-estate. If they default, then we own the island of say Crete.”

Better they do that and get to work actually producing some wealth or they’ll end up with nothing to offer — except possibly their women and young girls. It’s beyond me why people have such great difficulty with the concept of living within their means.


10 posted on 02/12/2012 7:52:13 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: Hojczyk

From what I can tell, the only industry in Greece is State sponsored welfare.


11 posted on 02/12/2012 8:21:56 PM PST by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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12 posted on 02/12/2012 9:02:39 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: MrEdd

Europe doesn’t have enough spirit left to fight a war, i think they’d voluntarily euthanize themselves before they’d pick up a gun.


13 posted on 02/12/2012 11:15:53 PM PST by Wayne07
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To: MrShoop
In this mix, as benefits are cut off...old Europe's Islamic underclass is going to give them a war...spirit or not.

Whoever survives the coming crucible will be different from (and likely contemptuous of) the Europe of today.

14 posted on 02/13/2012 3:24:39 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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