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To: brityank

It doesn’t pass the “sniff test” (”Something is rotten in Denmark..”)

There is probable cause for the traffic stop.
There is no credible reason for the use of “lethal physical force “ , other than the officers ‘belief’ that the kids might be in danger.

I wonder if he would have done the same if the driver was certifiably deaf.

Personally, I think that it is an over reaction following the Powell father who killed his children while the socialworker was outside the door, and then blew the house up with a gas explosion.
Interestingly enough in the Powell incident ,the 911 operator queried the social caseworker for 6 minutes, and then hesitated another 11 minutes before making the radio call to dispatch police, who arrived another 6 minutes later(a matter of 23 minutes before police arrival).

Bottom line: no justification for the use of “deadly physical force”, and will result in a lawsuit.


30 posted on 02/11/2012 11:00:14 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
Bottom line: no justification for the use of “deadly physical force”, and will result in a lawsuit.

More importantly, some prison time.

37 posted on 02/11/2012 11:04:18 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (FOREIGN AID: A transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
You bet. If this were the case, every damn pursuit would lead to immediately shooting the driver to death, since they are endangering others on the road.

It's safe to say, OCSD has their teet caught in the ringer big time.

Not to mention, I'd guess there are probably a whole lot of Marines in Camp Pendleton who are more than a little angry with OCSD, murdering one of their own, who was totally unarmed and had no weapon.

42 posted on 02/11/2012 11:12:27 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Loggins was from Joliet, Ill., and joined the Marines in 1998. He had a reputation as being a deeply religious (Christian) man who put a premium on his family and his work.

Aaron Banks, 28, who served with Loggins for a year in Hawaii, described him as a "poster boy" for the Marines.

"He was everything I wanted to be as far as a Marine and a person," Banks, of South El Monte, said. "He basically schooled me up."

He said he and his colleagues are confused by the shooting. "We're all upset," he said.

Sgt. James Chavis, 28, who also served with Loggins in Hawaii, said he was equally surprised.

"Manny was not one of those people who disobeyed commands," he said.

72 posted on 02/11/2012 1:01:00 PM PST by Riodacat (And when all is said and done, there'll be a hell of a lot more said than done......)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

“Personally, I think that it is an over reaction following the Powell father “

BINGO.

You can not govern this way.


159 posted on 02/12/2012 10:43:42 PM PST by Apogee
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