Posted on 02/11/2012 8:48:22 AM PST by DouglasKC
Media Response to Anita Li, from the Toronto Star
Since you took the time to email us with your requests like we asked, Ill take the time to give you an honest follow-up response. Youll have to forgive me for doing so publicly though; again I want to be sure my words are portrayed the way I actually say them, not cut together to make entirely different points.
Your questions were: Q: Why did you decide to reprimand your daughter over a public medium like YouTube?
A: Well, I actually just had to load the video file itself on YouTube because its a better upload process than Facebook, but the intended audience was her Facebook friends and the parents of those friends who saw her post and would naturally assume we let our children get away with something like that. So, to answer Why did you reprimand her over a public medium like Facebook my answer is this: Because thats how I was raised. If I did something embarrassing to my parents in public (such as a grocery store) I got my tail tore up right there in front of God and everyone, right there in the store. I put the reprisal in exactly the same medium she did, in the exact same manner. Her post went out to about 452 people. Mine went out to about 550 people originally. I had no idea it would become what it did.
Q: How effective do you think your punishment was (i.e. shooting her laptop and reading her letter online)?
A: I think it was very effective on one front. She apparently didnt remember being talked to about previous incidents, nor did she seem to remember the effects of having it taken away, nor did the eventual long-term grounding seem to get through to her. I think she thought Well, Ill just wait it out and Ill get it back eventually. Her behavior corrected for a short time, and then it went back to what it was before and worse. This time, she wont ever forget and itll be a long time before she has an opportunity to post on Facebook again. I feel pretty certain that every day from then to now, whenever one of her friends mentions Facebook, shell remember it and wish she hadnt done what she did.
The second lesson I want her to learn is the value of a dollar. We dont give her everything she asks for, but you can all imagine what its like being the only grandchild and the first child. Presents and money come from all sides when youre young. Most of the things she has that are cool were bought or gifted that way. Shes always asked for very few things, but theyre always high-dollar things (iPod, laptop, smartphone, etc). Eventually she gets given enough money to get them. Thats not learning the value of a dollar. Its knowing how to save money, which I greatly applaud in her, but its not enough. She wants a digital SLR camera. She wants a 22 rifle like mine. She wants a car. She wants a smart phone with a data package and unlimited texting. (I have to hear about that one every week!)
She thinks all these things are supposed to be given to her because shes got parents. Its not going to happen, at least not in our house. She can get a job and work for money just like everyone else. Then she can spend it on anything she wants (within reason). If she wants to work for two months to save enough to purchase a $1000 SLR camera with an $800 lens, then I can guarantee shell NEVER leave it outside at night. Shell be careful when she puts it away and carries it around. Shell value it much more because she worked so hard to get it. Instead, with the current way things have been given to her, she's on about her fourth phone and just expects another one when she breaks the one she has. She's not sorry about breaking it, or losing it, she's sorry only because she can't text her friends. I firmly believe she'll be a LOT more careful when she has to buy her own $299.00 Motorola Razr smartphone.
Until then, she can do chores, and lots and lots of them, so the people who ARE feeding her, clothing her, paying for all her school trips, paying for her musical instruments, can have some time to relax after they finish working to support her and the rest of the family. She can either work to make money on her own, or she will do chores to contribute around the house. Shes known all along that all she has to do is get a job and a lot of these chores will go away. But if youre too lazy to work even to get things you want for yourself, Im certainly not going to let you sit idly on your rear-end with your face glued to both the TV and Facebook for 5 to 6 hours per night. Those days are over.
Q: How did your daughter respond to the video and to what happened to her laptop?
A: She responded to the video with I cant believe you shot my computer! That was the first thing she said when she found out about it. Then we sat and we talked for quite a long while on the back patio about the things she did, the things I did in response, etc.
Later after shed had time to process it and Id had time to process her thoughts on the matters we discussed, we were back to a semi-truce you know that uncomfortable moment when youre in the kitchen with your child after an argument and youre both waiting to see which ones going to cave in and resume normal conversation first? Yeah, that moment. I told her about the video response and about it going viral and about the consequences it could have on our family for the next couple of days and asked if she wanted to see some of the comments people had made. After the first few hundred comments, she was astounded with the responses.
People were telling her she was going to commit suicide, commit a gun-related crime, become a drug addict, drop out of school, get pregnant on purpose, and become a stripper because shes too emotionally damaged now to be a productive member of society. Apparently stripper was the job-choice of most of the commenters. Her response was Dude its only a computer. I mean, yeah Im mad but pfft. She actually asked me to post a comment on one of the threads (and I did) asking what other job fields the victims of laptop-homicide were eligible for because she wasnt too keen on the stripping thing.
We agreed we learned two collective lessons from this so far:
First: As her father, Ill definitely do what I say I will, both positive and negative and she can depend on that. She no longer has any doubt about that.
Second: We have always told her what you put online can affect you forever. Years later a single Facebook/MySpace/Twitter comment can affect her eligibility for a good job and can even get her fired from a job she already has. Shes seen first-hand through this video the worst possible scenario that can happen. One post, made by her Dad, will probably follow him the rest of his life; just like those mean things she said on Facebook will stick with the people her words hurt for a long time to come. Once you put it out there, you cant take it back, so think carefully before you use the internet to broadcast your thoughts and feelings.
LOL! You have style. :)
If you want a lesson to stick in the memory you gotta make it worthy of remembrance.
Like when I tossed my Daughter's video game out of the car window straight into a creek. Now when I say: "You can take Door number one which is "follow the rules" or You can take door number two which is: "suffer the consequences"...
Since that time she has NEVER taken "door number two" !!!
What a well thought out response. I noticed you still haven’t answered questions posted to you either.
The guy did the right thing. I have a teen son. You have to do things to catch their attention and keep it. Shooting the laptop definitely did that. Going public did it as well.
Is he perfect? Nope. But your comments prove that you are rather petty. Defend your post but don’t go to potty comments. That is for DU.
You’ll never recover from that clever repartee, will you? Bwahaha!!
As an addition, this guy is great! From his Facebook:
“Pre Viral: Spent 1 month raising money for MDA on Facebook. Earned $320.00
Post Viral: Spent 2 days raising money for MDA on Facebook. Earned another $3,050.00 with no sign of slowing down so far...”
Yeah, I guess it’s just that it’s a waste of a perfectly good computer. An expensive lesson for that girl, I guess.
Heck *I* got the vapors when I read this, for the opposite reason. Swoon!
Let me guess.... she’d be put into a foster home where a bigger boy or someone will abuse her for real.
Our “Rosa Parks” cultural moment maybe?
Maybe, just maybe, the monetary value of a laptop fell somewhere below the value of a good lesson to his beloved, immature, daughter.
Aaaaah Waaaaa....
Would have been more dramatic to blast it with my 12 gauge or drive over it with tractor.
And he complains about her language—doesn’t take much to figure where she learned that from!
I’m still licking my wounds....^snicker^
>>I am silenced by such erudition, Netmilsmom; how ‘bout you? <<
Seriously, your response was very elegant.
I am impressed!
The drama king of Youtube responds to the drama queen of facebook. The drama queen is fifteen and the drama king is in his forties. He showed her.
I was just trying to be sarcastic, but thanks. Anything for Tommy Jordan!
When my oldest son was one, I figured out the flood of money from grandparents, aunts and uncles belonged in the savings account. We did not give that money to the children so they could buy every piece of junk their friends’ hearts desired.
When they were teens and they worked to pay for their sports equipment, car insurance, dates and gas, that money saved up from relatives - and the interest - came in handy for college expenses. It aided both sons to graduate with no debt and they are not obsessive shoppers and wanters of stupid things they don’t need - raging materialists.
In many ways, this showboat made for reality tv “dad” is an idiot.
Your parents didn’t whip your ass enough!!!
Except for that time back in '75 when I blew a 69 Volkswagen Beetle out of my butt. Then again I was drinking heavily at the time.
Your sarcasm is art!
thank you! LOL. yes...when all else fails, look at the very top of the article, sheesh!
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