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To: Tennessee Nana
In the heat of the Missouri “Mormon War” of 1838, Joseph Smith made the following claim, “I will be to this generation a second Mohammed, whose motto in treating for peace was ‘the Alcoran [Koran] or the Sword.’ So shall it eventually be with us—‘Joseph Smith or the Sword!’ ”

TN, you link as your source for this quote Vol. III, p. 167 of the History of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (the "Documentary History"), which is the seven-volume history printed in 1902 and begun by Joseph Smith, Jr. himself.

This quote is in the printed version of the Documentary History. However, page 167's been removed from the digital version of the Documentary History. There's a page 166, a page marker for 167, and a page 168.

Joseph Smith's Mohammed quote has been expunged.

When I write on LDS topics, people sometimes ask if I'm an ex-Mormon. No, I say. Since the 1980s I've been interested in and researched Mormon history. Do I hate Mormons? No. But I do get upset with the continued rewriting and cleansing of history, and I see it constantly. Like the recent removal of page 167 of the Documentary History (and that LDS.org removed the Documentary History completely from its website).

Two months ago, if you used Google to search "History of Mormon Church," the Wikipedia article on the Documentary History used to be the third item that showed. Today, it's on the third page of Google search results.

The LDS church is distancing itself from the Documentary History, written by those who were there from 1839 to 1856.

And I'm watching 'history' as it appears to those just now learning it from the internet change before my eyes. I wrote on one thread about an issue with the Wikipedia article on the 1890 Manifesto and saw the article changed overnight; I commented on a problem with the change and saw that addressed that night - people are tasked with actively addressing warts and uncomfortable history as part of the collaborative Wikipedia Latter-Day Saints Project.

Goodness help me, I love my Mormon friends, but there's a huge task force cleansing the Internet on their behalf and without them knowing it.

53 posted on 02/11/2012 1:14:17 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster

I’ve been studying Mormonism since 1968..

Since then several changes have occurrred...

Mormons have started calling themselves “christians”

They’ve added a “holy ghost” as a type of powerless but fluffy harmless mascot...

They no longer let non-Mormons access their own Christian ancestors psuedo records in the Mormon IGI for dead dunk baptisms, endowments and sealings..

They no longer boast at my door of the huge finances taken in that past year by the Mormon corporation...complete with printed paper records of their company and of every church in town.....this used to be a talking point for Mormon misionaries during the 70-80s (this proves our “church” is the real one...)

They no longer allow non-Mormons to be dead dunked in their own ancestors place..another talking point...I used to be told I was mean and hated my ancestors because I refused to com’n down to “do the temple work” for them...yes they knew I was never going to be a Mormon..

since 1978 theyve allowed black men to be full members with the priesthood etc...but none after 35 years are yet in any higher leadership roll...

They no longer tell me I’m going to be someones slave in the Mormon afterlife if I dont convert to Mormonism...in that slave thingy they are like the JWs..

and so on...


54 posted on 02/11/2012 1:38:15 PM PST by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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